have you seen these shows? "extreem make over" and "the swan"? theyre sick, they take women who are already beautiful and make them all look exactly the same, with surgery and stuff. They claim to be making them bautiful, but they take away whatevers distinct about them "oh you have a big nose lets make it smaller" "you have small lips lets make them bigger" Man if these guys had their way all people would look identicle but come in slightly diferent shades. And the stuff they do is nasty, they put them on a chair, have a "councelor" tell them all this stuff is wrong with their body, mark them up with a marker, then surgically alter them. Im ok with the stuff where they give them acne treatments and put them on healthier diets, that stuff could help people, why dont they have a show that only does that sort of thing without sugically removing all disticntiveness? There was this woman on it with a big round butt, and it didnt look one bit out of place! it was a nice but! but they put her on a diet, then liposuctioned it out! it was like watching them cut down an old redwood, destroying a natural thing of beauty like that forever for no reason.