everyone thinking your weird

actually meat is scarce in thrid world nations because they don't have the money to supply food sources for the animals. I am thinking african and indo-asian countries not south american ones that obtain meat from US farms down there. So yes in nations that are not interdependent on the US meat is a rareity. Don't give me some bullshit argument with no specifics-I will call you on it.

 

oh and fish is scarce in MODERN DAY where it wasn't before because of lack of regulations for over fishing and selling privatley without extensive govermental regulations to supermarket chains.

 

Personaly i think as much aid as possible should be given to poorer countries get them up to the standard of at least eastern european countries...help them too help themselves..if that means giving animals or seeds or whatever. lynsey are you saying people in poorer countries have no right to chose if they wish to eat meat or not...i think some one said its because we live in a rich society we can choose...thats a great privelage that should be given to as many people as possible , all over the world. Maybe if poorer countries earnt it and strived for it ...they would apreciate what wealth can do and not abuse it....like we do. and i don't see eating meat abusing their wealth.

do you want the whole planet to be vegeterian ??? that would be so wrong.

 

is cambodia third world and asian enuogh for you?



FoodRice and fish are the staple diet for most Cambodians. Local specialities include curries, a variety of soups, and traditional beef, pork and poultry dishes. Fresh seafood is also available. Chinese and Vietnamese cuisine are also common to Cambodia, as is a variety of western cuisine which can be found in abundance in Phnom Penh and Siem Reap.



http://www.hanumantourism.com/cambodia/information.htm


what about vietnam?

Vietnamese cuisine is the talk of travellers in South East Asia! It is extremely varied, with an exciting vegetarian selection. The staple diet of the locals is white rice with an abundance of vegetables, fish, meat, spices and sauces. Also remember to sample the delicious and unusual fruits, such as green dragon fruit, jujube and water apple

http://www.travellersworldwide.com/15-vietnam/15-vietnam-about.htm

how about burma?

Boiled rice with dishes of curry, fish, beef, mutton, chicken, or pork, cooked with potatoes or green vegetable is staple diet of most Burmese people

http://www.travelershub.com/outbound/south-east-asia/yangon.html


is malawi african enough?

Mr Salima showed me inside his simple floating hut, and told me how fish - and only fish - are the island people's only source of income.



Fish here is the staple diet. Mr Salima said he could not recall a day when he had not eaten it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/999173.stm


edit: meat is *PART* of the staple diet of a HUGE chunk of the world. With that said, they dont eat it in the proportions that westerners do.

 

a staple diet for whom?-those who fish and those who are wealthy enough to buy fish-I wouldn't call that a widely availiable resource nor would I say that meat availibility is typical for third world nations. I don't think eating fish is wrong unless our seas are overfished (which they currently are).

I think when talking about third world nations we definitley need to send aide but it needs to be a sustainiable aide that can carry on through drought. Meat farming would take ten times as many crops as simply eating the crops themselves. So while we may all want equality of food sources it is just not practical and would set up a third worlsd nation for failure.

 

you said all third world countries have meat as a primary source-not just third world coastal communities. So there-how about land locked parts of Africa;how's there meat farming going? As far as I know meat (not seafood) in third world nations is only afforded by goverment officals and the wealthy. By the way a geographical survey site is more accurate than a travel site or country profile as I am sure travel sites cater to tourists and not poorer members of third world countries...just a guess.

 

i take it that when they say "most cambodians" "Of the locals" It means your average poor schlub, and not the wealthy elite. Veggies however are eaten far more and in higher prorportions than your average westerner, thuogh.



edit: are yuo going to narrow it down everytime i list a set of countries? I made no distinction between meat and fish.

 

In the begining you said that third world countries primary source of food is meat. All I am doing is expressing that what I know does not reinforce your 'facts'. If third world nations had meat as a common diet staple and ate it every day, than why is there famine-it wouldn't exist now would it?

 

uh hello? you said it wasnt...i said it was and listed 4 countries as proof...

You have made stipulations that i cant use south america.....then you said no coastal countires....so you have left me with...the landlocked nations of africa! i'm not going to play your games. I dont know what the staple diet of lesotho is, i dont paricularly care if its just corn and not fish.

You were the one who made the claim that meat is scarce in third world nations and i said it was a staple..whether it is of every third world nation, i dont know, i made the mistake of not saying "many". I'm not going to take the time to go through every country in africa, since you've already removed virtually all of asia and the whole south american continent, and the dozens of coastal african countries. Does this not seem pointless to you?

edit: btw, malawi touches no ocean.

 

well there is no need to state the obvious that coastal countries can fish. I mean common who the hell is going to debate that one-this is why the MAJORITY of third world nations are land locked.

 

malawai touches no ocean and has fish as a staple. Lakes and Rivers do come to land locked countries.


majority? I'd be curious to see a list of landlocked third world countries to not..

 

here i made a quick list from this map...


mali
niger
chad
central african republic
demoratic republic of the congo
burundi
uganda
rawanda
zambia
malawi
botswana
swaziland
lesotho
and zimbabwe

edit: forgot ethiopia

the rest touch the coast.

http://www.library.northwestern.edu/africana/map/

its bigger than the set i listed.

edit: look, idont want to argue with you. No third world nation eats like westerners do, whethre thats good or bad is neither here nor there. whether they subsist on vegetarian diet or on an omni diet is also neither here nor there, the problem is that people all over the world are starving, and that needs to be addressed.

 

why do you give a shit.

 

because those are the facts, why else would i care? I'm not arguing whether its good that they eat meat, just that they DO

 

are you a practicing vegetarian?

 

isn't it better to give a shit and argue than to not care or not be educated enough to argue?

 

no, i'm an omnivore, though, i'm delving into the possibilities of trying of it out. i'm very pro choice when it comes vegetarianism/omniverism(sp?) though, i dont think anyone should tell someone else how to eat.

 

the only reason I think as a world we should become vegetarian is because we would have so much more food to use as aide and there would be no global hunger as long as there wasn't a flaw in the distrubution. Food would still be free-market but it would be in high supply so the demand would go down (from lack of hunger). People who eat meat are basically contributing to poverty.

 

Governments who dont take care of their people contribute to poverty. The fact that i go fishing doesnt have anything to do with it.

i dont think we need to force people to be vegetarians to fix the hunger problem, and even if that was the only way...its not worth it. Selfish? probably

 

thats madness.. realy come off it. ok its a nice idea . But then you have animals roaming around doing what ? what be the point of having cows and chikens etc .. vegeterianism solving world poverty...i have read it all now . for all your fact lynsey ...you do seem to want a world full of vegeterians at any cost .. sorry if i am wrong.