Ever wondered about the Illuminati?

Worth polluting with religious twattle you mean?

 

How is it religious? Just because it is affiliated to the discussion doesn't mean your trying to convert them. Just because I am talking about Jews doesn't mean im telling anyone about the religion or its dogma's. For all we know the entire illuminati really are babylonian occultists, which I beleive a majority of them are. Freemasonry, Shriners, all organizations with initiation rituals, all apart of it. Just because I say Jew doesn't mean I'm talking about an Orthodox Jew or a Hassidic Jew, which in both respects are entirely different, merely the race of people from which they descend from. In all actuality I'm talking about the Zionist jews.

So I really don't see how is this is religious twattle. How could you teach people about the Crusades without describing why the forces were fighting?

Teacher - "Well you see, these tan-skinned guys that live here fought these white guys in armor because they thought differently."

Students "Oh...Is that it?"

Teacher - "Well no, but it's not really important, it's all just religious twattle."

 

Nah whatever man Im not anti-semitic, Im Italian, I couldn't be a nazi. If you wanna say im racist against the jewish people youll have to do better than that, and explain to me how 2 occult symbols used side by side in ancient divination cults all over the Polytheistic world, and In India, used by Buddhists and Jains. They are sometimes interchangable symbols even, but most of the time are used togethor, with the swastika symbolizing eternal life, the wheel of life, the constant flux oif samsara, the operation of the sun, and good fortune, whose center is the soul , while the bent arms suggest the ceaseless turning of the wheels of life throughout universal existence. When we look at photos of faraway spiral galaxies, we are wonderstruck to see that they clearly resemble swastikas in their vortical motion.
Then the Star of David, which is a false name put upon the Solomon Seal, none of which are mentioned in the Torah, or Talmud. Solmon is known in FACT and admitted by Jews to have already corrupted his father David's United Kingdom of heaven and finished his temple construction. He adopted the neighboring Babylonian idols, and rituals of Demonoloy to Moloch, Jah Bul On or Enlil, plus other foreign alien gods. Which was the entire mission of the Exodus of The Wisdom via the Hebrew people as a mass from the corrupt Pharoahs royal family, and the corrupt preisthood of Egypt. To STOP THIS, SOLOMON FUCKED IT UP ALREADY. This symbol is NOT JEWISH.
"Known as King Solomon's seal or star, it was called in India the seal of Vishnu. The interlaced triangles signify the bipolarity in nature — spirit and matter, or male and female. The apex of the white triangle represents the divine monad; the apex of the dark triangle, the manifested worlds. This is very similir to KABBALAH, but it is NOT THE SAME. It is a symbol used all over the world by all the cults containing the divine Gnosis (knowledge). It is not a symbol that should be used for a Jewish Identity.
How does it just happen that Israel, originally a tool for British Imperialism into the Ottomon Empire with The Balfour Declaration, actually be bought through money by a wealthy European Family(Rothchilds). Then the British Empire started to suck, then all monarchies finally began to lose total controls to the banking dynasties and then through WWI they all were finally destroyed, and replaced with Democracy, and Capitalism. Yet The Rothschilds coat of Arms displayed an odd occult shape of twin opposing triangles. Which has nothing to do with Judaism. Then comes this whole idea of Zionism! and returning to the jewish homeland! That we left and agreed upon that a centralized temple was not necessary until lthe end times. The gentile masses would not allow it, so they all migrated to other places, in the diaspora. This was no longer a Jewish Ideal, until it could be used as a monetary and pivitol position on the Suez canal for the British. Then they began moving back to this land which was dominated alreay by a population causing conflict. Then BOOM WWII, The Swastika, the counterpart that was always side by side in Hindu, All Polytheistic, and Occult temples. PROMOTES A RACIST ANTI-SEMITIC PHILOSOPHY. ROUNDS THEN UP,KILLS MILLIONS. Gets owned by America which is funded by the Jewish bankers, of which are the Rothschilds, along with other non-jewish banking dynasties. (WHO ALSO FUNDED THE NAZIS SEEING AS THEY WERE SO CALLED NEUTRAL STATES WITH THIER HEADQUARTERS IN SWITZERLAND AND BELGUIM.) Then after this atrocity which was used by these fuckers to Hijack the Jewish people and their beliefs. Pay for their executions, and then setup The other of the two ancient symbols, (the Solomon Seal) as the state of Israel. An official Imperial Apartheid state, whos native population was being forced to obey, by a much superior military, and are now forced to blow themselves up as a means of revenge before inferiority, seeing the the Israelis cannot live in peace in this country. They have to DOMINATE IT, not treat them as equals.
I just don't know how two important ancient symbols could be dug up from the past, and used side by side to create a disguisting episode of humanity, that functioned solely off one another. nazi ideal=holocaust=Israel. Israel has only gotten more power hungry. The so-called Bin Laden even used this as his excuse for hating America, their butting in on other peoples buisiness and their support of Israel. They fucking LOST OUT. If nothing else just answer me this, Why is Israel not in Montana? Or East Germany?

 

Like I said, this doesn't differ in the slightest from the conspiracy theories you can read at any neo-nazi group website. The only difference is that at you end you say "but I have nothing against the jews of course".

Don't you wonder why your theories seem to be extremely popular with neo-nazis? Don't you see the similarities to the Protocols?

 

Like I said before the neo-nazi's were probably right, but because they just beat the shit out of black people, homosexuals, and jewish people, no one's gonna listen to what they have to say, only what they see them doing. Anyone who celebrates hate on another race of people like that obviously isn't going to be taken seriously. Your just using this neo-nazi bullshit because you know that's the only response to what we're saying.

It's only anti-semetic when you bash on the religion, which we are doing nothing of the sort. We are not saying persecute the Jewish people, they themselves are victims to this. We're not singling out anyone here except the high order of Jewish families who probably don't even follow Judaism, they just have Hebrew blood.

I love how whenever there's any argument regarding Jews someone always has to throw out the anti-semitism card.

 

The neo-nazi's were probably right about the jews?

 

Well you said the conspiracies theories went along side neo-nazi ideals right?

So maybe they were right, but im not saying I condone the violence associated with them.

 

This whole anti-semitism thing is bullshit, let's abandon it and get back to the argument, because neither Nimrod nor I are anti-semetic.

So Hassidic Jews must be anti-semetic because they don't like Zionist Jews, this is basically the same thing, because the zionists are who we're talking about.

 

So the neo-nazis were right about the jews, but they shouldn't be so violent about it.

 

Seriously, get off the neo-nazi shit.

Like I said prior, Hassidic Jews DO NOT LIKE Zionist Jews, they do not agree with their agenda. Does that make them anti-semetic? NO. So why should be considered anti-semetic if we're talking about the SAME PEOPLE.

Do I beleive the Jewish race is inferior. No.
Do I beleive they have a majority of power in media, politics, economy. Yes

I think im gonna shave my head and tattoo a swastika on my chest, because it sounds like a neo-nazi!

Yea, they shouldn't be violent, but they're going after the wrong people to begin with. The common jew is like any other citizen. He is a sheep just like we all are. It is the Zionist Jews, who have ties in the Illuminati etc that go back all the way to King Solomon and Babylon and all the things Nimrod said prior.

The Star of Davis itself is a blatant symbol of this power, just like the back of Dollar Bill.


Did you even watch both of the videos in the original post? Or are you arguing for the sake of arguing?

 

Hitler and the Nazis were also fixated by these same conspiracy theories.

And that’s no coincidence.

Young White American Males are, like the Nazi youth, sexually frustrated by the recent loss of their illusions of racial superiority.

Like the German defeat in the First World War, White America had its assumed racial superiority slapped in the face by Black and Vietnamese liberation movements in the '60s and '70s.

White American Youth now, as the Nazi Youth then, seek revenge for their loss of sexual power.

Loss of sexual power, because the more our sexual identity is threatened the more we compensate for that weakened sexual identity by becoming increasingly attached to our racial, class or religious identity.

Thus the current Conservative Christian Movement, Reagan's White Republican Party of property, and a facination with Nazi supported conspiracy theories.

But like the Nazis then, White American Males now are not sexually secure enough to face the natural facts of life about power.

Concentration of power is an anal-retentive impulse of patriarchal man's latent homosexuality.

Hitler’s impulse to concentrate power, as a response to these alleged concentration of power conspiracies, is a typical example of how our anal-retentive impulses go far beyond any mere conspiracy, and are instead, a natural product of our patriarchal latent homosexuality.

Hitler, like every patriarchal man, is too sexually insecure to admit the anal-retentiveness of their patriarchal impulses.

Too sexually insecure to admit that the psycho-sexual impulses of patriarchal concentrations of power are beyond the scope of any mere conspiracy.

Illuminism, Zionism, Freemasonry, become, for the latent homosexual defenders of patriarchy, exaggerated symbols representing every thing we hate about our own hidden anal-retentive impulses.

Convenient archetypal symbols allowing the latent homosexual to vent his subconscious self-loathing upon a convenient target without fear of being discovered himself.

School-yard sissies busy exposing every other pathetic sissy in order to divert attention from himself.

Swastikas, Crucifixes, Inverted Pyrimids, Yahweh, Moloch, JahBulOn, Demons, ect, ect, are nothing more than symbols conjured up by patriarchal man to fixate his psycho-energy for the satisfaction of neurotic preoccuptions.


JahBulOn does NOT exist, never did exist, and never will exist as anything other than a fabricated psychological tool.

A tool whose power to fixate only works on weak and insecure patriarchal psyches.

History of patriarchal man is NOT the history of clueless conspirators, but the history of man’s behavioral adaptation to severe environmental stress ten thousand years ago.

The history of effeminate fear that grips the anal-spinchter, and produces a life-long association with anal-retentive stimulation.

The history of anally stimulated effeminate men surrendering their own personal sovereignty to seek, like women, the security and authority of an alpha-male patriarchy.

The patriarchal history of ever increasing concentrations of power by the grasping anal-retentive impulse to control, own and aquire.

The French Revolution and Modern history is patriarchal man’s clumsy response to Columbus’ discovery that there are men who can live in this world who obey NO Lords, but who are each Lord unto himself.

A response inspired by Rousseau, NOT Adam Weishaupt and his clownish Illuminati.

Yet a response doomed to failure regardless, because patriarchal man’s sexual identity is too weak to allow us to expose the hidden nature of our psycho-sexual impulses.

Far easier for the defenders of patriarchy to blame secret societies, and to accuse anyone and any group who question the motivations of patriarchal authority as pawns of secret societies no matter how ephemeral, indirect or inconsequential their associations.

The shrill guilt by association tactics used by the defenders of patriarchy is typical of Fascist patriarchal arguments and a reflexion of their frustrated sexual envy of the Elites.

I wish it were only a conspiracy of a few Global Elites, but the truth is far worse than any conspiracy could ever be.

Unfortunately, patriarchal man is a frightened nature hating man who, rather than except natural explanations for the Elite's concentration of power, prefers to vent his frustrations in a short-sighted blame game.

Focusing on Elites, whether real or symbolically exaggerated, is like worrying about deck-chair arrangements on a sinking ship.

Every Global Elite could die tonight, and by morning we survivors would be fighting to take their place.

 

*rips hair out*

 

ok...so i believe in conspiracies...that makes me a sexually frustrated, fascist, nazi? hmm...that's fair...

 

Every patriarchal man is a sexually repressed, authority seeking Fascist.


Blaming the Elite ignores the natural dynamics of human interaction.

As long as we remain fixated on following the money and the power, we will rremain blind to the underlying dynamics of our survival and reproductive motivations.

The Elite are not evil people, they're just slightly more frustrated and desperate versions of you and me.

Within the context of patriarchal civilization's hyper-competitive primate sexual hierarchy, every human association can be viewed as a conspiracy.

In such a social environment, none of our motivations can be expected to be entirely free of status-seeking social-climbing.

Politics is sex by other means.

 

i have no idea what happened to this thread

i say you see Inside Man, once you do, come back to this thread and you'll see why

 

The truth as I see it: You guys are just as confused and disillusioned as the rest of us when it comes to the state of the world, but you resign yourself to coming up with crude explanations for it all.

 

There's nothing to say about the Illuminati itself.

They were pampered, perfumed, powder-wigged, bourgeoise who, like many of their type, enjoyed flattering themselves that they were the friends of the common man, and the friends of egalitarianism.

Yet Adam Weishaupt and the Illuminati added NO original ideas to the revolutionary movement.

What the Illuminati and the many other secret societies provided the revolutionary movement was a place where they could talk without fear of the police.

Of the several thousand mostly useless clowns who used this secret society, Mirabeau, Bonneville, and Buonarroti, were the few who played significant roles in the revolutionary movement.

The problem for the revolutionary movement however, was that the Illuminati and most of the many other secret societies were thoroughly infiltrated by the Christian Monarchy's secret police.

What can you expect, gossiping women keep secrets better than these fools.

This despite the fact that they adapted a cellular organizational style.

However, even though the cellular organization didn't work for them, this cellular structure was used by many future revolutionary groups.

So they weren't completely useless.

Much is made about the rituals and occult symbols used by many of these societies, but these occult rituals and symbols were all the rage at that time.

These rituals and occult symbols were hugely popular in the urban centers as they represented a slap in the face to the conservative reactionary Christian Church, and the despotic Christian Monarchs.

And the Reactionary Church used this fact to paint them all as devil worshipers to the less sophisticated in the rural conservative countryside.

This is why, in later generations, people pushing occult ideas like Alister Crawley tried to resurect the memory of the Illuminati, and inflate that memory to grandiose proportions.

Better than working for wages.

 

It is a fact of life that if you go around telling people jews were behind the holocaust, the "neo-nazi shit" is going to be hard to shake.


And for the record, Hassidic jews do not think jews were behind the holocaust, so trying to use them as your excuse isn't going to work. These conspiracy theories just use anti-zionism as a cover for anti-semitism. You don't have to look very hard to figure it out, its quite obvious.

 

I never said Hassidics blame the zionist's for it. What I said was that they're connected to these Illuminati members.

m6m is talking about how everyone is really homosexual and that's the reason we have a shadow government? I think that is more far fetched than the original idea.

Oh and as far as the american revolution goes, guess who funded the americans? The Rothschild family, a jewish banking dynasty.

If you've seen Inside Man, [attention spoiler alert] the new Spike Lee movie, you'll notice the head of the bank is a Jew, better yet, a Jew who sold out his own friends during the holocaust in WWII so he could make a profit off the Nazi's after doing business with them. These are who I associate with the Zionist's, sp your putting words in my mouth saying Hassidics blame the Zionist's. All I said was they don't like them because it goes against what they beleive in.

Oh, and if people weren't so ignorant to beleive everything told to them in history books, then they'd realize when I try and distinguish one sect of jews from another, they'll realize it's not neo-nazi shit. There were Jews who did business with the nazi's, that's was the whole premise for Inside Man, and Spike Lee, someone from Brooklyn, definitely understand's what is going on, seeing as how New York is an epicenter of races and knowledge.

 

Repressed latent homosexuality, that's far more dangerous than out-of-the-closet out-in-the-open homosexuality.

That's the reason our EGO hides our homo-erotic impulses behind the drappery of patriarchal religion, business, and politics.

Just think of it as a deeper conspiracy theory, only without the reptiles.

Along with many tens of thousands of others, but let a single Continental Dollar come from a Rothschild, and that fact will be used to dismiss the efforts of the thousands who fought for and gained their independence.