Ever wondered about the Illuminati?

That's not ture m6m, he feels that there is an evil concentration of power by the people you guys talk about like Bush and RUmsfeld, and even less popular people like certain CEO's, corporations that exploit the planet, etc. but he feels that these groups and people are controlled and financed by an even more powerful group of people, illuminati.

 

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phhhh..last i heard it was the "liberal" media. You guys should make up your minds.

 

m6m your post is not relative. Its fucking scientific jibberish. Explain what you mean by concentration of power and the Shadow side, we are talking about the Shadow side of culture the fucking shadow government, and don't talk with your purposely confusion science babble terms that are yet to be proven in fact, and are still only THEORIES as well. Reefer and I were just saying that this concentration of power is in these wealthy families hands who form a shadow organization, referred to as the Illuminati, Bilderbergers.etc, and have been responsible for Western Culture since the French Revolution, and every major war throughout the whole world since then as well.

Worry about the fact that deception is EVERY primates most effective strategy for survival and reproduction within hyper-competitive hierarchies. What hte fuck is a caucazoid too? You saying something about white people?
African Americans are involved in these conspiracy theories through underground rap, and the temple of hip-hop.

Thats just fuckin bullshit, you say self-deception which is bullshit again, they are using cultural deception with GOVERNMENT. Plus who says this is a conspiracy theory? YOU ARE DECEPTING YOURSELF. REEFER POINTED OUT FACTS ABOUT THE SOLOMONS SEAL, I did the same for Israel and the Nazis. THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING ORGANIZATION BEHIND THEM BOTH. What else explains how they both revived ancient occult symbols of demonology to symbolize their countries. That have nothing to do with Judaism (being the Star of David which is actually the Solomon seal its on wikipedia look it up, its no fucking conspiracy theory its fact, and the Nazi Swastika. They've even been seen next to each other in Indian Hindu temples.

Lying in a field your fuckin stupid, this is no conspiracy theory. Call it by a different name and see if you get the same results, your conditioned by society to associate these words as r33f3r pointed out. Obviously you didn't read my post, its not Capitalism, or Socialism. Its BOTH, its every government ever created that wasn't a theocracy, or Greek Democracy, or a Monarchy. They control BOTH SIDES, who knows what agenda they wanan seek if they even want a New World Order, it could be perpetual chaos and power shifting of nations, governments, and religions. As to stay out of the public eye, but maybe they do want a one world government. Angel Headed Hipster was right on.

 

Not really, seeing as how capitalism is run by privately owned businesses, hence the reason why outsourcing is such bullshit. If anything, im a socialist, because capitalists just keep the wealth for themselves and exploit the rest of the people. How would socialism be behind it all, no where have I read that the people distributing the wealth among themselves, are in control of the government and power. Oh thats right, the people outsourcing American jobs, the capitalists, those are the good guys.

Interesting, that im sitting here reading your post, not responding with "your incapable of thinking" but rather...why dont you take the stick out of your ass.

 

Oh, and just because on books, movies, etc. on conspiracy theories have a price to them, does that grant them false? I didn't know people could distribute thousands of books, movies, etc. for free. I figured something that went against our political system and media would be funded by millionaires. So i guess since hes making a buck hes a scam artist right?

What about televangelists? I don't beleive in them, but i mean c'mon, they're doing the same god damn thing and have millions of followers.

 

Interesting. You know you're one of a kind don't you?

Alex Jones and his right wing following are notorious for their chant of the "ALL FORMS OF SOCIALISM ARE BAD" mantra.

If you actually interpreted my post correctly you'll find we are mostly in agreeance, except for the outlandish conspiracy part. Socialism cannot be behind the problems in the United States because what is occuring is NOT socialism. Even if George bush is supposedly a "National Socialist", I am capable of thinking critically enough to not put you and him in the same convenient basket. Your conspiratory friends unfortunately are too stupid to do so.

 

If they control both sides. Why not take over now and get it over and done with. They're bulding it up right? I sincerely doubt its ever going to happen.

You're american right?...interestingly, in other nations where liberalism and conservatism actuall ring truer to their PROPER meanings and don't simply represent the two sides of the whitehouse....people don't buy the left/right paradigm joke so easily.

 

Well I don't listen to alex jones, in fact, all the conspiracy literature i read was before i stumbled upon alex jones. the only reason i support him is for what hes doing, but its real easy for someone to just bash him saying its all fake and hes trying to make a buck.

I could explain myself on why theyre controlling both sides, and what they're building up for, but no one would beleive me, so i'll just save my energy..unless someone would like to hear?

 

the first video pissed me off, I dont see how so many people that are out in the public eye can all me in on this big mind controling cult, and how someone out of thousands havnet cracked and told the world already

 

But your a socialist, therefore in many a conspiracry theorists eyes, your a lefty, and tool of the conspiracy. Too many conspiracy theorists seem doped out and truthless in their accusations that its hard for me to take the thing seriously. Should i not discount it, because the rare few like you can see some sense?

 

Why would you want to end a money making scheme that gives you constant power? Thats why they haven't taken over publicly and completely, cuz theres more wealth, power and elitism to further themselves from all of us sheep. They are making wars and countries, and fucking around with everything. They have taken over, its just the fact that the media pushes all this totalitarian, 1984, Naziesqe complete control empire. THey want wars, they want chaos, A NEW ORDER OUT OF CHAOS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. WITHIN CHAOS THEY CAN HIDE BEHIND THE SCENES AND FEED US BULLSHIT. Bi-partisan politics are the microcosm macrocosm of this in America. Keep them battling each other and we are blind to the truth. It is a Machavellian theory as well. There won't be a one world government, more like a one world currency, and a world economy with the people below and them above, so it could be socialism, it could be capitalism, it doesn't matter once were all on one money system and all owe money to these independant banking dynasties that are prominent members of the "Illuminati" "shadow government" whatever you wanna call it, I stick with the South Park reference to Kenny and just say "THEY".
Happy Kel, people have cracked and tried to leave, they dissappear. You don't make it to the public eye, they control the visual media, so even if it were to be filmed it would have to go through their own people to be released. There are authors out there like Milton William Cooper author of Behold a Pale Horse, that are initiated Freemasons, and DO write this shit. THIS IS WHERE WE SOME OF OUR INFORMATION, you think it just falls out of the sky. The connections put togethor historys mysteries to well to just be bullshit. Seriously cmon why is there an Owl on the Dollar bill, and why do the Bohemian Grove worship an OWl figure? The owl can see in the darkness. Just as they think they can, by manipulating the free world.
I didn't mean to attack you lying in a field, I addressed your post in the first paragraph, but In my opinion its all gonna come about very soon a very tell tail sign of their dominance, that to the normal person is going to be a "real spiritual event". It is going to be so intense and so "real" that if you say it is a conspiracy you will be viewed as a horrible racist, like saying the holocaust didnt exist. Even though it definately did, and was the major idea behind WWII, all to setup an Israeli state. This to the average person would sound horrbily racist, but the truth IS RACIST. I myself have no racist ideas though, the Jewish people are the victims of all time, their religion is based on Prophecy awaiting to be fullfilled. This was hijacked by "them" again illumanti freemasonry whatever the fuck you wanna say its more than all those. They are going to pursue "peace" with palestine, untill they get to a point where their going to ask nicely to rebuild the Dome of the Rock in Mecca. Then they will rebuild Solomons Temple, yet it wont be for YAHWEH or the Hebrew god. It will be designated for Jah Bul On just like in the video. The occult trinity of demonology, immoral satanism, and blood sacrifice. Now the Jewish people will be united with the temple rebuilt which is a big step in the fullfillment of Prophecy, untill BADA FUCKIN BING THEY FAKE THE FUCKIN JEWISH MESSIAH. Causing all jews and Christians to go crazy. With their new King david ruling the whole of Judaism like the Vatican rules Catholicism. They will have a centralized government, who in cahoots with the Catholics, who now have the shared agreeance that their messiah has come. Will team up and wipe out the remaining factions of Islam, that don't allow "THEM" to sneak into the ranks, (unlike the Saudis, and Morrocans, and any supporters of the Fez in Egypt). Eliminating the last remnants of truth of the one god submission worship and dedication through peace, and both these religions will be the spawn of a giant religious change into paganism.

 

Or not.

 

Well nimrod did it for me pretty much. I also think that with all the outsourcing going on, there is going to be another stock market crash, and citizens are going to be put in a huge debt with this rigged burden in the economy and be in the control of the companies ran by Illuminati members. Money runs the world, so the best way to control them would be by taking it from the people and making them pay it back, complete control. It's only a matter of time, I dont wish for this to happen, but I mean c'mon.

It's easier for someone to say "Or not" instead of actually thinking of an intellectual response, no offense. You just have to realize theres a bigger scheme going on then fucking what the televisions wants you to think. Yes, things work and our country develops, but dont you think theres a bigger scheme in the midst? A bigger picture?

Why spend billions of dollars upgrading war machinery and technology while your invading a 3rd world country? To protect troops better yes, but also, they have something else in mind that they're preparing for?

 

Actually, pointbreak has often presented a great argument with ample evidence to back it up as to why you guys are full of it.

"Or not" Is probably far more constructive than actually trying to argue someone out of a complex, pious, mind numbing belief system.

 

How is it pious and complex? Is life not complex? I didn't know secret societies and coverup's were simple. If you look at the facts, and put 1+1 together, you'd see how it workds out.

I might have taken my theory too far about what could be in store, but the original Illuminati statement and connections presented by Nimrod was pretty clear I think.

I guess thinking outside of the box instead of following what is told to you is mind numbing. Media is run by these same people, the Illuminati, so whatever they tell those puppets we call news anchors to say, who's gonna know the difference. We just take everything we're told as fact and truth so no one has anything to say, they just think everything is working out fine.

That is why when movies like Loose Change come out, with lots of evidence and footage to back things up, people think it can't be real, something has to be fake, because the news or government couldn't lie noe could they?

 

Actually....the 9/11 thing actually proves none of your theories. It only proves 9/11 was staged. Thats the problem, you guys cant ever tell nor can you make up your minds where the truth ends and begins.

I say its complex because its far more sophisticated than most other cults.

 

I am sick of 9/11 being used as a political tool. 9/11 this and that so this and that bullshit.

 

This is just anti-semetic bullshit. All you are doing is repeating word for word the lunatic neo nazi conspiracies that have been around for decades, and then adding "but I have nothing against jews" at the end, as if that somehow changes it.

 

I was actually only using 9/11 as a reference to just make a point and how people can't beleive the truth even when they see it, well most of it.

But anyways, so you agree that it is proof 9/11 was staged, so lets see, who owned the buildings, a jew, keymember in the Illuminati, probably. Is that anti-semitism? No, it's merely distinguishing someone from another. Now, if you watched both the videos in the beginning, you'd see the connections between jews and and government throughout history and how they played an important role in major events. Such as the Rothchilds financing the american revolution, wwI, wwII etc. Jefferson is even quoted saying that the American Revolution's main premise for war was because of the banking systems that were setup at the time. Ran by, yep you guessed it, jews. The Federal Reserve's themselves are private organizations. Look in your phonebook, you wont find them in the government section, you'll find it under the business section.

And dont pull that anti-semitism shit, that's just your way of making a person look bad because you haven nothing else to say. That only reason no one beleives neo-nazi's (not that i agree with their agenda) is because of the violence that was associated with them. If they were people like you and me stating the true facts maybe shit would be changed.

Your 36, your a goner, there is no changing your mind because you've built this wall of protection around you based on these ideas and facts you've been told your whole life. Just like my old history teacher used to say, theres no sense in trying to change an adults mind, the younger generations are the only ones worth teaching.