Ever met a fascist or Nazi ?

Ever hear of the civil rights movement?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...


except if you are black.

 

There is nothing spiritual or intelligent about either of them.

At all.

They have no understanding of who they really are, the entire nazi movement was, in the first place, based on lies and a fabricated past. The glorious aryan past never happened. The aryan "race" is some people who moved where they didn't need pigment in their skin, but they still needed vitamin D... so they started inbreeding, and lo and behold, albinos.... i mean, aryans.

 

Wolf, there were a few points of yours that I wanted to respond to but I don't really know where to start because your entire premise is ignorant.

I think you should research the following:

Japanese culture, particularly their technological advancements post WWII.
The Ottomon Empire and the Middle East, from past to present.
Africa before the 15th century. Songhai, Mali, and Ghana Empires.
Consider also, Africa post 15th century, especially European colonization and slave trading. Consider Africa's resources and the wars that have been sparked by European and American involvement.
Native American tribes and their advancements and accomplishments. See also, American and European involvement in their decline.

As for the Jews, if you honestly think the Jewish culture hasn't offered any persons of accomplishment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Jews

 

I'm a history major, I know about those places than you ever will.

 

Havin a tough time with the Confederate flag on bumpers & flying at private homes in South Jersey. I'm ignorant as to who any why,

 

Brilliant...

 

Ahahaha. So much fail.

 

No, I haven't. But my uncle had the job of arresting high-level Nazis right after the war for the Nuremberg Trials. He told me about it.

 

You're a piss-poor history major if race is the best reason you can come up with to explain the many-thousands of years in developmental difference in different areas of the globe.

Bradley Manning's my name, daylighting dourchebags' my game.

 

Damn, I thought you were obviously cosmoknot

 

Technically, all people are byproducts of inbreeding. If one is to take the biblical story of genesis literally, after all. Since God only created Adam and Eve, inbreeding had to happen after they had children in order to be fruitful and multiply.

 

Where did the new guy go?

 

To answer the OP's question: Yes, I have met a man who belonged to the Nazi party during it's reign in Germany. He was living in northern California on a large acreage of land. He went by the name "Harry" and was elderly (this was about 10 years ago), but quite a forceful personality, and very able-bodied. The story is long, but basically I ended up sitting at his dinner table with him many a time. By birth "Harry" was Bulgarian, not German, but he had gone to live in Germany as a young man and joined the Nazi party at that time. He was friendly enough to me, just a regular old man, albeit not very intelligent or open-minded. He would sit hour after hour and watch documentaries about Hitler and Nazism. His wife was a friendly woman who cooked a lot. I have no idea what her political leanings were, as she never spoke of them. Harry owned 3 German Shepherds, of which he was very proud.The strangest thing, to me is that I was raised as a Jew, and raised to be terrified of Nazis and the horrors they inflicted upon humankind. So being in Harry's presence was internally challenging for me - to say the least. I don't know whether he knew I was a Jew or not - I never cared to get into his political beliefs with him. The last time I saw him he was still wearing an old, heavy ring with a swastika on it.

 

Interesting.

Did you ever discuss how he came to be living there like that? If he wasen't that smart, I wouldn't think he was paperclipped, unless he had some other very important intelligence information, or value, or did someone a great favor.... or actually defected.

Because I don't THINK many nazi's who didn't get paperclipped would have chosen the US, their friends all went to south america.

 

No, RooRshack, we never discussed anything about Harry's loyalty to the Nazi party. I knew this guy during the '90's, pre-9/11 and all the heightened security, etc. I have ZERO doubt that he had fake papers to get into the U.S. I was curious, yet it was pretty obvious that Harry was a very shady man...and maybe I didn't REALLY want to know what his whole history was. He had come to the US for business reasons (he had come from south America in the '70's) and saw the US/Americans as a way to make a lot of money (he seemed to be quite comfortable financially). The guy was slick in so many ways, an aggressive criminal type of mentality - not someone I respected. For example, he screwed around with passports so he could help friends of his get into the US. It bothered me. Frankly, I felt an intense hatred for and disgust of Harry, despite his basic friendliness toward me. For a long time, I feared running into him (just because it was awkward, and because I felt contempt for him), then I heard from a friend that he had sold his house and moved to a different part of California. I don't even know if he's still alive now.

 

Through my historical reenacting I have met two men who were members of the Hitler Youth (though every German kid had to be after a certain date) and both later joined the Waffen-SS. Both were, in my experience, really good guys and complete gentlemen.

 

In my youth when I was a paid up Communist in the UK the local 'National Front' & 'British Movement' were my political enemies (still are but I'm no longer a Marxist) and we'd counter-protest (have a punch-up) at each others Rallies. In the run up to a national or local election the gloves were off !
Then as we met at Council Hall on Election night,awaiting the results of the vote, we'd stand around chatting with each other quite amicably. Though we could hardly be called mates they were an okay bunch of lads, some I'd known at school. We'd shake hands (neither side having won the election) & part on good terms-till the next time!

In the late 70s it got nastier. The Skinhead element now joined the knuckle-draggers that pass for the 'Masterrace' & any notion of gentlemanly conduct was gone. The Far Right got more ambitious because of the Governments allowing immigrants into the UK from Uganda & the Far East, their raceist rhetoric gained them some popularity with voters at local levels.
The son of a local prosperous Car Dealer (Tory party member who knew he stood no chance of selection as a Candidate) left the Conservatives to become leader of the local BMP & with posh accent, smart clothes & a flash motor (from his old man) became the acceptable face of local Nazism.
It was a hard fought election-in every sense & yours trully spent a couple of nights in Hospital not so much fighting for Communism but with the local Anti Nazi League trying to keep the BMP off our streets !
Outcome ? The BMP got nowhere, Flashcars Dad died, left him the Business which he sold & pissed off down South where the money is to live . Conclusion? Nazism or Fascism is/are the politics of dispair. The politics of blaming the innoscent, the racial minorities, bewildered folk driven by politicians & desparate economic need into a situation where they are scapegoated, used , and dont understand . Nazis are bullies.

Would I do it all again ? If I had to ,fuckin' right !

 

My aunt married a man who's father was a soldier in the German army. I was around him quite a lot when I was little. He had no affiliation with the Nazi party and in fact, found them to be a pretty reprehensible bunch. In fact, during the sixties, he was pretty active in the civil rights movement and had a lot of interest in blues music. But he was brainwashed along with the rest of Germany during the war. He carried a lot of guilt with him for the rest of his life until he died of cancer about ten years back. He was a great guy and I miss him.

 

I was walking down a nearby trail and came across two skinheads. It was night and they called out to me in the darkness: "Are you a ******!" Fortunately I'm not.