ever get mail seized?

From what I read it's very unlikely they're going to try and get somebody on the federal analogue act. If anything that's if you're actually selling or redistributing the drugs, however if it's found in a properly labeled package and the use of it can not be determined, I don't see why anybody would face any serious issues besides confiscation. Especially when the mailing behind the transactions are so secure.. it'd be a long shot to prove you actually wanted what's being sent to your house. And for them to care enough to try and get you 20 years behind bars.. rofl, I think some people are just paranoid. I know people who got caught selling the real deal, *acid*, and didn't even get much more than getting the shit taken away + fines + a year or two..

The only people who really got hit were the american vendors who were responsible for a few deaths related to 2c-t-7 overdoses. Or one of the 2c-t's anyway.

 

your friends who got caught with acid obviously didn't get it in the mail cuz that has a mandatory minimum of 5 years if total weight is 1 gram or higher (including weight of blotter etc. Under 1 gram weight + carrier wont even usually be prosecuted by feds they hand to state) . Paranoid or not, the penalties for unspecified schedule one drugs and their analogues, when federally trafficked (ie: in the mail over state lines) is up to twenty years in prison for ANY amount. By the letter of the law there is absolutely no difference between someone getting busted with 20 kilos of some analog research chemical, or 2 MG of it. Both carry the same exact penalties, and both can be prosecuted by feds if they so choose if it is done via mail.

 

I dun get it.

Sugar is an unscheduled drug. So if I shipped a baggie of pure dextrose, you're saying I could go to jail for 20 years?

As long as it's not an analogue of a scheduled drug, it should be fine, and there are heaps upon heaps of drugs not too closely related to scheduled drugs.

 

True but I'm yet to hear a story about somebody being hit with the Federal Analogue act, most cases are thrown out / not pursued.

 

The only time I knew anyone who got a controlled delivery, they were mailing mass amounts of scheduled substances. They let alot of it go through and watched him for a long time before they hit him though. He had plenty of warning to stop and didn't, it was his fault for getting tied up. And yes, the mail man was in on the bust too...

 

I apologize in advance for usage of "swim", probably unnecessarily

SWIM shipped some 2c-p from canada to the us in an overnight express package. SWIM packaged it real shitty, its slightly bulky, makes it look like not documents (which SWIM claimed it was). Fedex in canada stopped it and called SWIM to confirm that its just documents. SWIM swore to them it was, and they let it through. now like two weeks later, SWIM gets a message on SWIM's machine from fedex saying US customs has stopped it and if SWIM could please give them a call. they gave SWIM a 440 number to call and gave SWIM a long ass reference number. The guy on the message said they would hold it for 30 days, and didn't say what would happen afterwards.

What do you think SWIM should do? Thank god it was 2c-p and not something directly scheduled, but still, this is at least postal fraud if SWIM is caught/they prosecute/etc right?

ps. binary shadow, make room in your pms!

 

....You put a return address on it and claimed responsibility? Good job....

 

It was Fedex, you have to. Unless you give a fake one.

 

that really really sucks dude. to help us swimmers, could you tell us how it was packaged so it doesn't happen to us? you should probably make a new thread in bigger hopes that binary will see it.

 

It was a necessary parameter of the exchange i was participating in. had i not made the awful packaging choice this would have been 100% successful.

 

I'm sure he'll check this thread's new posts. It was a small baggy taped to the middle page of a macleans magazine, the magazine then folded into four, forced into a plain white envelope, and that inside a fedex mailer.

 

I have done 2cb and 2ce and I am interested in trying 2ci but I am looking for reliable sources and there seems to be mixed reviews on pretty much every single one. I don't feel like losing a 100 bucks though, anyone have any advices or sources?

 

The fact is as long as it's not a pham on the schedule list, it will most likely come through. Even pharmaceuticals themselves will make it through if they don't have recreational value, the elderly, the transgendered, the sick and poor, people with pets all constantly buy drugs from overseas because it's cheaper. One in a blue moon they'll seize random packages, but as long as it's not an amount large enough to distribute it'll come through.

 

Aw shit man X.x keep us posted

 

SWIM shouldn't feel to worried.

First of all they're going to have to analyze the 2c-p to look at what it is. I guess if you wrote straight up that it was 2c-p that it would be easier for them, but they're still going to need to test it to find out what it was.

Second of all, it's coming from Canada where SWIY shouldn't get in any legal trouble for the 2c-p, but the person receiving the package in the US might get in trouble if they can analyze it.

I would guess that after 30 days they just toss it. If they had decided that they wanted to raid you SWIY or get you in legal trouble, I don't think they would go through the trouble of calling to warn you.

Also, doesn't FedEx have the right to open your mail without a warrant?
I believe they do.. but I might be wrong. I think that's why it's suggested that USPS/CanPost are used for packages.

 

Lots of mail is screened quite heavily no matter how you send it.....

 

Are you referring to that I suggested using USPS/CanPost instead of FedEX/UPS?

If so, it's not a case of how much they screen it, but how easily they're allowed to open it.

I believe that FedEx/UPS can open your mail without a warrant, and in that case you're pretty much fucked if they decide your mail is suspicious. USPS/CanPost need to go to a legal source to obtain a warrant to open your mail, which means that if it's only slightly suspicious they might not make as much of an effort.

Either way, this doesn't help said SWIM now, so I won't continue talking about it.

 

Your package being seized probably had less to do with the packaging and more to do with the fact it was sent international overnight and had white powder in it. It seems that customs has been paying a large amount of attention to international overnight packages, and they have a high seizure rate. International overnight should in general be avoided, it does have its advantages but 99% of the time you want to send slower than that. If you sent it with normal or priority shipping, it would almost certainly have made it.

Fedex does not need a warrant to open your mail.

I wouldn't worry much. I know someone who had a large amount of a non-scheduled 2c-X seized by customs, and they just sent it on to him after testing it for known illegal drugs and it turned up negative for all of them.

 

If customs seized it, does that mean they've opened it?

If swim doesnt call them in 30 days, what happens?

swim feels better now. swim will avoid this method of shipping in the future.

 

Status?

My recommendation would be to do nothing, unless they make another move. Forget about the package.