Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

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  1. thedope

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    On the idea of exposing yourself to uncomfortable elements pushing through the discomfort during weight training would be an example or form.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    Cool...

    You interested in coming up with like a 3-4 rhythm chord progression part piece for me to jam on?

    Maybe have like 2 parts like a verse/chorus but something fairly straightforward so I can feel it out.
     
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  3. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Hell yeah man. I'll come up with something.
     
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  4. Asmodean

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    Here's some esoteric wisdom:

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  8. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Why so bitter?

    How is astrology not related to the topic of this thread?

    This isn't gossip, this is debate about whether Einstein verified and paid homage to Astrology or not.
     
  9. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Wow, surprised that nobody has anything to remark on Einstein and a quote of his praising Astrology. So people are with me that he said this then?
     
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    So what do you think of this book from 1931 that is rare but that some people own which quotes him?
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    even if the quote is real it doesn't mean einstein "verified" astrology anymore than newton "verified" alchemy by secretely practicing it. There are scientists who avoid breaking mirrors for 7 years of bad luck, shall you follow that doctrine as well?

    argument from authority. you can do better dude, this is like back to basics with you every few days
     
  13. thedope

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    I'm not having that debate and there is nothing off topic about astrology. I'm not expressing bitterness but pointing out that popularity and knowledge are not the same issue.
     
  14. thedope

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    What?
    Denis Hamel is a Canadian professional ice hockey left winger who is currently playing for the Saguenay Marquis.
    http://www.csicop.org/si/archive/category/volume_31.6

    Can't view the article unless you purchase. Are you spamming?
     
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  16. Asmodean

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    Probably because astrology isn't knowledge.

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  17. thedope

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    Throughout most of it's history astrology was considered a scholarly tradition and was accepted in political and academic contexts until the end of the seventeenth century. Let's not forget Nancy and Ronald Reagan, as a joke anyway. There is a lot of popular myth that shrouds in mystery any substantial understanding of a subject that simply lost popularity among the modern academic group in the light of a more rigorous kind of symbolism, although some deep material survives with the sincere student of the arcane.
     
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    Ah, but rigor is the name of the game! It's why we don't perform trepanation on our epileptic loved ones anymore. I don't explicitely subscribe to what is popular with the modern academic group, I am swayed by evidence, and I strive to live and think in circles where evidence is a high value commodity.

    You have a way of experiencing or interpreting things in a mythic way (as in beyond true-false, not false) that only confuse those who are not on your level into thinking that you are agreeing with them on literalistic and historic interpretations of mythology, superstition and religion. I would beseech you to sometimes stop hoping others rise to your level of discourse and you sometimes come down to theirs; sometimes "no, you're wrong, and here's why" is the correct answer that a person needs to continue their journey.
     
  19. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    So what do you think about the 1931 book with Einstein's quote, Asmo?
     
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    And what rigor do we apply to personal experience? I am swayed by evidence as well. I'm assuming you are referring to me when you say you have a way I don't know what specific you might be referring to in suggesting I say you're wrong for this and this reason.
    I was referring to the comment that astrology isn't knowledge. I have no remedy for the impressionistic interpreter. Doesn't matter what I say if your head isn't in it like some of our fashion club members. How do you measure the level of a persons understanding? I try to posit things in a way that doesn't exclude probability/possibility. Let them that have ears to hear, hear. It seems from your exposition here that you can penetrate the mystique of my metaphor so all is not in vain.

    I find in some respects a familiarity with astrology is helpful in the personal alchemical transformation sense. More significantly for me it peripherally notates a body of experiential information encoded in the gene, at least I think there is a map of experience that can be accessed in the process of knowing thyself and given the function of the gene it seems reasonable that it should exist there at a cellular level. It is not the calculations and prognostications of the astrologer that interest me but the observations that go into into compiling the system which include deep introspection in the hermetic sense.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism
     

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