Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

Yes, I understood you. I think I might enjoy exploring meditation at some point, it seems a fair amount of people accomplish the same goals with meditation as psychedelics, if not similar affects.

I'm saying that it took me about a month to just get proper posture and begin to quiet my mind with meditation. It took me 1 heavy psychedelic trip to completely deconstruct my mind's view of more or less a quarter of my life's understanding of society, culture, reality and self.

Here is a fascinating excerpt and article on a few spiritual leaders thoughts on MDMA...

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_writings1.shtml

 

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Do you have experience with unicorns or levitation? What is your opinion on the existence of unicorns and levitation?

 

My take on unicorns is that they are symbolic represention of these qualities in men, the phenomena of being mounted on a noble steed,white horse whose power goes before him, his knowledge being that power represented by the unicorns horn which penetrates matter. A unicorn is seen in the movie puff the magic dragon, obviously placed there as a symbol.

 

The universe is Infinite, so I won't absolutely discount the potential existence of anything really.

 

An example of this kind of anthropomorphism is an example I give of the term righteous indignation. Calling it creture with two heads going in different directions, like a push me pull you from the fantasy tale, dr. doolittle. There is no indignity in righteousness and dignity cannot be had unless shared by all.

 

It depends on what your goals are, and those are different for different people.

A few years ago, back in 2000, I had a very powerful lsd exp, after which I decided to leave off taking any further psychedelics for an extended period. Not because I got freaked out - quite the opposite. It was just so outside my usual consciousness of the world, that I thought I'd gone far enough for now, and time to integrate. I'd been doing it on and off for 25 years by then.
I wanted to see how far I could get I suppose in the absence of psychedelics. So I just decided I'd smoke weed, and try to get into other methods.

It was a useful experiment, and it allowed me to go more deeply into certain areas of stuff, but eventually I became a little bit bored, and I felt I needed something to just give me a little lift. I had the idea that MDMA might be worth trying. I had the chance to do it often back in the 90's when I was involved in the then nascent rave scene, but I declined at the time because I wasn't sure how safe it was, and at the time I was a single parent.

Anyway - I tried it in 2006 and found it to be very good. At that time I was 48 years old. It helped to put behind me various emotional and physical traumas from the past. I found it to be a healing experience on a deep level. It saved me from becoming a grumpy old man maybe. Certainly I felt more alive than I had done for years. In a way, it gave me back a kind of freedom I'd lost during my years as a parent when I couldn't think only of myself. I kind of revelled in the feeling that I'd reached a stage where I could do what the fuck I want. I still feel that, 9 years now after that 1st time on Md.
I decided I could do it every few weeks and that turned out to be ok. I no longer follow that regime. If someone gives me a bit maybe every 6 months, well and god. It helps me negotiate my deteriorating physical situation.

Fast forward to 2011. I decide to try doing acid once more. A strange man gives me 3 drops of some liquid. It's quite a big hit I realize
. Somehow I have never been away. My friend moves his arm and I see 100 arms describe the movement. Like one of those Buddhist pictures. It's the full spectrum of effects. I haven't had acid like this since the 70's.

I see right away that my years of abstinence have been a good idea. I'm in a different world than in 2000. Since then ...well, the internet? To put it mildly I had a very interesting and paradigm shifting experience.

I'm happy if a bit paranoid to share my experience. I'm not entirely comfortable talking about all this online. For one thing, I'm not sure anyone is that interested. And as I say I am paranoid. Although I have no reason to be. I suppose in some way although I've resisted this for some time, I feel obligated in some way to talk abut it all. And fuck GCHQ.

 

I have to tell you bill it takes some courage to spill my guts the way I do but it is exactly as I suggest for everyone. We have in ourselves inherent wisdom and the only time you find youself in contention is when you think others dont have it or others wont respect you for it.

 

How do you know the universe is infinite? That's certainly not what observations suggest.

 

I thought even Scientists would agree that it is infinite. Ok, so what's the truth then?

 

http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/6651/20140109/universe-measured-perfect-accuracy-infinite-flat-eternal.htm

 

Some scientists may disagree with that article. But the actual fact is that Scientists don't know for sure whether or whether not the Universe is infinite. In my opinion, this is only supporting that the Universe is probably Infinite. So infinite, that we could never truly break it down into terms that we could understand with our rational minds.

Aren't fractals also supporting the idea of infinity? How about an asymptote?

 

Lol. . . wanna walk me through that reasoning step by step?

Fractals don't "support the idea of infinity". Infinity as an idea does not need "support"; it is merely a word we chose to mean "without beginning or end". Fractals have infinite volume, but finite surface area. An asymptote is a line which approaches another line, but never actually touches it (or you could say "touches it at infinity" which actually doesn't mean anything).

So these are two geometric ideas. How does a geometric idea of infinity lend credence that the actual physical, empirical universe is infinite?

 

it would be correct to say we know it is expanding and we have measured that this expansion is accelerating. Obviously the specific future is yet to be seen. I think the idea he is trying to express when he says infinity is that anything is possible. I have found that certain things are more probable given the design of the experiment.

 

I can envision the expansion of membrane to the point where it turns itself inside out, in that space is curved.

 

Science is and always has been limited by it's tools of measurement...

 

since we are our only measure our ultimate tool is simply our own power of observation which leads to our measuring devices and theorums.

 

Saying something isn't infinite because our latest tools say so doesn't allow for measurements with new tools developed in the future that prove present measurements invalid. Everything is a theory, even our own existence.

 

Have to disagree with everything is theory we are in fact real.

 

You can see it as limited, or you can see it as empowered by. Every time we get a better tool of measurement, we learn more. Think of the gigantic leap we took going from our eyes to telescopes. Or our eyes and microscopes. Entire universes so to speak were discovered with each.