escape america to a COMMUNE!

Have you ever looked inside the black market... I bet you can get some cheap slaves, who well surive the summer to set yourself up. Then they die in the winter...

 

Great!

Do you have any skills?


skills are not nesisary, you can be taught anything you may need to know, or learn it from the land.

It's gonna be real tough at first. like REAL tough...lol like back breaking labour kinda stuff...it's gonna really suck...

I figure we are going to be short on women. I am a homo, so I am not saying it for sex reasons, I just think a bunch a guys out in the woods with no women..it'll be strange. we will need polarity to maintain sanity.

yeah....anyone else?

 

anyone planning on heading out and going out to start a commune should read what dilligaf is saying ...she is so very right ........you can have all the right ambitions and all but communal living ,especially starting up will be way harder than anything most of you have ever done ...but if you succeed ,the rewards are also more than you ever dreamed of

 

"without worries about countries politics"




to ditch things like that is to stop trying to change the bad, and to stop tying to make things better.

 

i have skills. i have nunchuk skills and bow staff skills. any way, i worked as a landscaper for years, built houses, even a straw bale house out here in Montana.

i was in the Army unfrotunately but i do possess a good work ethic and discipline. used to waking at the ass crack of dawn. anywho, i say to all the naysayers. WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY. instead of saying how difficult it is gonna be, gives us tips, which some are doing. listen, those of us who are into this know it is gonna be difficult, but anything that is a dream is not easy to attain and i wouldn't want it handed to me on a fucking silver platter. we do need some women because too much testosterone will turn us all into the real life LORD OF THE FLIES.

 

I am not trying to make anything better.

I am simply trying to live my life the way I would like it lived.

If moveing off into the woods isn't good for the world...I don't see what is.

 

good..you can wake me up...I wake up around the crack of noon.

as for this "straw bale house" it might sound ovious..but just checking..houses..out of straw bales??? doesn't sound very nice. i'd rather sleep on straw then live inside it.

I am still looking for good land, all I seem to find is clear cut, or too small.

I am still unsure as to the size of land that will be required.



tips are great! any tip no matter how usefull(or useless) it may be!

 

straw bale houses are not what you think. the bales are used for insulation and then there is a process of mudding it for some stucco for others. i am not an expert as i did the manual labor, i am sure there is domeone who can explain it better.

 

Are you talking up like mixing mud and straw together to make a house? Or are you talking about make a house of of "rolls of straw"?

Hey, in the winter you can use the snow as insulation to... But once it melts you might create mold (thats if the water gets into the wood and other things)...

 

you more or less got it

The bales themselves are not just insulative but a part of the walls structural integrity aswell. In load-bearing strawbale building there is no framing aside from door and window bucks. It's the bales, stacked like bricks and lashed together, along with the plaster on either face which bear the deadload weight of the roof. Before plastering the bales are compressed with ratchet straps which bound the bales to the bottom plate/foundation and the top plate(which the trusses are then secured to) to form a single structural unit.

here's a really good FAQ link for strawbale: http://www.flemingcollege.ca/sustainablebuilding/projects/FAQs.htm

 

The 'mud' is inert clay and sand (no organic soil) mixed with loose straw to make a building compound known as 'cob', entirely different from strawbale. No one builds with 'rolls of straw'

 

what about water...where would we get our water from if we aren't near a river or lake?

 

dig a hole into the ground...

 

ya, down 12 inches untill you hit solid granite(if he intends to buy land in boreal canadian shield country), then pay several thousand to have a well drilled for ya

but seriously, your best bet is trying to set up a rain catchment system, for this I'd recomend dooing all your roofing with galvenised steel. It ensures clean runoff, and you'll likely have enough surface area to fill a few rain barrels after a heavy rain fall (may still need a few indipendent catchment stands though). This water isn't entirely clean though(for potable purposes), so you'll have to invest into some sort of filtration system or go low-cost/low-tech and just boil all your potable water. Are you planning on having plumbing at all?

 

Hey yovo you seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Good on you. If you're ever willing to relocate to either join or start a group let me know if Mb sounds good. A few people along with myself are starting up something here in MB. The plan is to buy land in Oct once all the legal and financial stuff is figured out.

I also started by doing research and such, but instead I took an electrical engineering tech class, and am working outside my field for good coin. already have somethings to my name and I plan on having my investments pay most of my living costs and expenses in 5 years if all goes well.

If others are in Mb or interrested check out my link at the bottom.


Also makihiko what's your new Idea to get funding? sounds interresting but could it be a scheme? give us some details. thanks

 

I would rather not have plumbing.

 

ugh. Why?

 

never mind trying to research anything ..just try to get yovo to join your commune ..he seems to be able to get all the answers you will need .and yes people do build with straw bales ..kind of like building a stack house

 

who in the freaking mind wants to move into a iceberg.

 

lol silly people...no ice bergs in the middle of ontario.

Also...I wouldn't want plumbing because it would actually be more work than it was worth.

I thought of useing rain water, but wasn't sure if it was able to be consumed.

I have been rethinking the power issue....I was wondering if we could make power by useing human power...kinda like a treadmill or a bike idea...I don't know how it could be hooked up, but if we would all "work out" for a little while we would be able to create electricity and keep busy...good for winter!