Erase a Branch of Religion

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by redyelruc, May 25, 2009.

  1. BraveSirRubin

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    I agree, but as I've said... it won't be nearly as extreme... probably not more extreme than it is now... and those who get out of line will be punished like criminals... which would obviously discourage such behavior and keep it minimal to small groups (just like it is now).

    In other words... not much will change, if anything. People will still be the same. There will be more Christian fanatics dominating the news, because they'll have no one to point their fingers at... but that's only natural. I don't see how the elimination of one religion will make others more extreme.

    If you look at world history, especially in the U.S. and Europe... the more people that reject religion, the less vocal and blatant religion becomes. Christianity has really become a much more private than public institution over the last 100 years after many people have rejected it.
    Yes.
     
  2. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    Fine, let's say that's true but isn't it about time to put an end to the bullshit that religion is today? It's insane to think that in this day and age people are still putting bombs into cars in the name of fucking Allah. That Christian groups protested outside of "Jerry Springer the Opera" and tore down posters of "The Da Vinci Code". There are endless examples.

    The "God hates fags" group is a small bunch of retards but there are many of those types of small groups. They have an army when united.

    It's slowing us down, man.
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

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    Absolutely not.

    It can easily be called a cultural war, but it's not, and I repeat... NOT, a Christian war.

    It's a war of the West vs. Islam, a war of ideals. Most people from the West just happen to be Christian... that's the coincidence... and that's why slogans such as these:

    Are used...


    Yet again, you're wrong. It might be extremism, but it's not necessarily Christian. It's more militarism and imperialism than anything.

    I hate to repeat myself, but the whole "In God we Trust Thing" is just an excuse to get the citizens to rally behind the country. It has nothing to do with religion, they're just fooling you to think so.

    Yes, religiously inclined people are crazy, but they have no power to enforce their ideas (other than voting for silly, somewhat inconsequential issues such as abortion and gay marriage).
     
  4. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    You might be right, BSR, for example it is plain as day that religion is slowly but surely losing its influence and power, at least in the west.

    But you can't deny the presence of fanatical Christians in the US today. Hell, Dubya stated God had told him to invade Iraq (Or Afghanistan, memory fail) and then there's creationists and that whole mess, as well as all the lunatics mentioned by TCF and Mojo. Christianity might not be as honestly and blatantly extreme, but it would be hopeful at best to think extremism would be eliminated along with Islam.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    The only way to get rid of religion is to educate people and force it out of them... which is a process, yet it's a process that's working, considering the global decline of religion (especially in Western nations). Muslim countries aren't even attempting to engage in this process, which is why I have a strong problem with Islam.

    None of the those little groups will unite because they cannot possibly agree on everything. You cannot imagine how many differences there are between Baptists and Catholics, per example. Fred Phelps and his gang are rather extreme Baptists. They wouldn't ever be able to agree with Catholics on the most basic of things... they could not join power.

    None of them could.

    Religion isn't slowing us down. The stupidity of human kind is slowing us down. Religion is just a cheap excuse and something that's easy for someone your age to point a finger at.
     
  6. McLeodGanja

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    Is it religion that is the cause of all war, or is it talking about religion?
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    You're not from the U.S., so I think that you have a slightly biased view of this that's presented by the media more than anything. I'm really not criticizing or trying to put you down over this... so please don't get the wrong idea.

    Dubya had no real power as president, but we won't get into politics right now.

    These extremist groups are far and between. It's like saying that hooligans represent all football fans.

    There are very few. Hell... most people don't ever get in touch with those extremists, or ever see them. We are only exposed to them on TV.

    As I've said... they have no power.

    I'm not saying that extremism will die with Islam, I'm simply saying that it won't rise.
     
  8. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    I realize that.

    I also realize that.

    What I'm trying to say is that without religion these morons would have no excuse. God forbid they should do something creative and/or useful with their lives.
     
  9. Asmodean

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  10. BraveSirRubin

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    Without religion these morons would just kill people indiscriminately and the world would go into chaos. There would be no moral law governing them.

    You're overestimating human kind.
     
  11. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    Maybe I am.

    I really like George Carlin's idea of the added commandment of "Thy shalt keep thy religion to thyself".
     
  12. BraveSirRubin

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    More and more Christians do.

    Which is a great thing.

    You have to realize that if religion isn't used as an excuse for murder and oppression, then something else will.

    Religion is not the problem here.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    This is very important to understand in my opinion. Religion isn't the cause, it's just one kind of evidence that we are still as smart/stupid as for example 2000 years ago. It's only organized society and passed on knowledge that makes us look smarter. The majority of humanity is not responsible for progress, they just adapt.
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    Exactly.

    Especially the underlined part.
     
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    I'd get rid of the Jedi.
     
  16. Jaitaiyai

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    Blacks in america are Hindus? I thought they were mostly Christian.

    Although SCORE for us. :cool:

    Yep, I tell this to people, no one cares. So many people I know talk bull on Religion, on my religion, tell me my beliefs are wrong but if I were to say even one work to them, then I'm a bigot. :rolleyes: It's not religion that's the problem, it's people and for the record, atheists are just as bad, if not worse here.

    Of course it is, they're not working for a profit, they'll probably have more people. You can't really compare the two when they're working for different goals.
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    Militant atheists piss me off more than most religious people. Hell, some of the best people I've ever met have been religious, truly religious, without the crap.

    I may come off as a militant atheist to some people, but it's all an inside joke with my friends... the whole black metal thing. It doesn't bother me though.

    I still must admit that I would find it hard to be friends with a religious person... but they'd probably find it harder to be friends with me, since I tend to say lots of offensive things.

    Hinduism is pretty damn chill though, compared to others.
     
  18. fitzy21

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    either you read it wrong, or i poorly worded it

    anywho, it's one or the other. either hinduism OR whatever the majority of blacks are. :biggrin:
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

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    Well, most blacks are protestant.

    Kill those off.

    The annoying militant ones are still Muslim though.
     
  20. TheChaosFactor

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    BSR continually has pointed to the fact that there are too many secular differences in Christianity, and to that, all I can say is, "The enemy of thy enemy is thy friend"......
     
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