Environmentally and morally sound way of life

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by hollowayjay, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. Mester

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  2. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    The only thing that you guys can some up with is excessive packaging?!?! You have to kidding me. They must do SOMETHING that's bad for the environment. AGAIN...not concerned w/ animals or the health of humans in this thread. Please someone come up with something! I have been hearing environmentalists complain about McD's for a LONG time. Please don't tell me that your all just blowing smoke.
     
  3. Rainbow Starlite

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    Spay and neuter cats, and be responsible with intact dogs
    Use public transportation (something I can't do bc my major metro area has the worst/most non existant you can imagine, and I have to drive over an hour each way to school bc I wouldn't dump my large breed dogs and couldn't find a place to rent with them anywhere else)
    Don't eat meat
    Take your own bags when you shop
    Shower with a buddy :)

    As for McDs, I don't eat there anymore, but I don't think they're probably much worse than any other fast food chain?
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    it's "you're" ;)

    Mc D takes the brunt of all fast food sin, and in some ways, since they did truly develop the concept after carhops, it IS their legacy.
    THat and like Wal Mart, the name serves as the declaration of taste less and material culture. (reference a joke I heard on radio years ago: dj 1: you know the Walmarts are going to start being 24 hours.
    dj2: why?
    dj1: so people have a place to beat their kids in public all night.)
    but aside from being the new form of "plastic american society," The largest corporations have no incentive to change much.
    Yes, McD did do away with styro, but after how long of a protest?
    those are the lingering bad feelings for some.

    But the problems are usually industry wide.
    Here's what I see as needing change for ecological benefit:
    allow local sourcing
    this will greatly reduce the miles put on by the food (esp us and Canada) before it is even assembled.
    It would also allow regional tastes much like McD International tries here and there.
    no living wages. this increases throw away culture because the fam can't afford a meal at a different restaurant that washes dishes, can't afford goods that last. increases disposable uses or obsolesence.

    Drive thru
    increases emmissions. Major portion of many fast food outside of LARGE cities is drive through traffic.
    Add car problems and leaks, and that's a nasty soup being power washed into the grass or storm drain.

    Monoculture of plants
    potatoes, onions, cucumbers, tomatoes, iceberg lettuce
    biodiversity in cropland equals healthier cropland and consumers. It would also mean a variance in tastes, like regionalization, which by definition is against fast food standards.

    and that's what I can think of without caffeine!
     
  5. spooner

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    Envrionmentally unfriendly factory-farms. As in they produce excessive amounts of waste, it is dealt with in an unsanitary way, ruins soil, releases too much methane, can pollute ground water, etc.
     
  6. GreaseMonkey

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    Yes you're right spooner, but what the endangered fish eater also doesn't know is that FACTORY FARMING IS THE NUMBER 1 MOST POLLUTING INDUSTRY IN AMERICA! 75% of all farm land in the US is used to feed animals!

    Furthermore, Mickey D's also buys cheap dead cow from Brazil thus supporting the destruction of the rainforest AKA "lungs of the planet".

    Oh but I guess global warming is no big deal we can all just live in frickin biodomes someday (those who are rich enough anyways)...
     
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    I was under the impression that seaweed converted the most CO2 into oxygen, but that rainforests acted were the most important carbon sinks.
     
  8. barter mama

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    All green plants (and algae) convert CO2 to oxygen, but in the rainforests especially so because there is such a high concentration of green plants. They're like the lungs of our planet... and companies like McD's and KFC get their meat from suppliers who cut down the rainforest to raise animals on the land. (http://www.greenpeace.org/international/press/releases/kfc-exposed-for-trashing-the-a)

    It's not just McD's that supports factory farms, but they're a highly visible force in the fast food industry... and as Greasemonkey said, factory farms are pollution-heavy, they're also resource-intensive and a breeding ground for disease. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_farming, http://www.goveg.com/environment.asp, http://www.hfa.org/factory/index.html )

    According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the run-off from factory farms pollutes our waterways more than all other industrial sources combined. (http://www.emagazine.com/view/?142)

    Another thing I dislike about huge multi-national corporations like McD's is their greed and attempt to blanket the globe in their factory-farmed garbage and force their diets, wasteful way of life, & ideals upon every culture.
     
  9. spooner

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    :rolleyes:

    If people didn't want to eat there, they wouldn't.
     
  10. barter mama

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    some people don't know any better, then they get hooked.

    Large multi-national corporations are just by nature predatory creatures, they feed off of others' misfortune and don't care for their customers, the cultures they set up shop in, their workers, their suppliers, the earth, or anything other than profit. That's what I'm trying to say.
     
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    But they are more efficient, and therefore reduce prices, which raises everybodies standard of living.

    It isn't the corporations fault for not self-regulating, its the gov's fault for not regulating them more strictly.
     

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