enlightenment

First of all, Hippy is a label the establishment gave us, I dont CALL myself a hippie. You dont HAVE to be a hippy to be on this site.

Also, i didnt CUSS you out. I was kidding around man, no harm meant Sorry if I pissed you off

and I am the baby of the stoner's lounge, your words don't hurt me

 

What I meant was that those that live a hippy lifestyle are not generally confrontational people.

Fair do's; it's hard to glean context when you cannot hear words....

Apology accepted, and apologies right back if my comment offended you in any way.

 

haha, yeah if you could hear how I usually talk you'd probably burst out laughing, cause i would not say that in a serious voice at all. I don't like confrontation, I usually just joke around with people a lot, and if I go too far, and their like "WANNA FIGHT?" I'm like "no, I'm sorry" and I back down

 

It's partly down to me, too (though not entirely my fault): I'm pretty ill at the moment and it's sometimes very hard for me to guage how to take things....

Don't worry about it, we're cool.

 

kay, yeah, I'm sick too, it sucks. Its going around my school like crazy. We'll be in class and ten people will be coughing or sneezing

 

actually zero i dont mean to be an ass u know i just though u where another of those ohhh yeah drugs are bad and they r stupid kinda people ..im so tired of dealing with those jaskasses but i see ur point.but still to each his own

 

Not at all; why would I be posting in a dope forum, if I was anti-pot?

I only ever speak fact, not conjecture; I'd never post something I thought was inaccurate. I am a stickler for accuracy, especially where drugs are concerned; there are a lot of naive people out there that will believe any old bullshit they like the sound of, regardless of whether it is true or not.

Doesn't alter the fact that I think most drugs are a mug's game... but I do have good reasons for thinking this.

You'll never see me 'diss' an opinion; I might not always agree with it, and if I think an argument is flawed, I will say so. But I'd never tug someone up for their opinion; we all have one and that is how it should be.

 

While blazed, I realized that every place any of you or I have ever been (from the park that I go to with my dog to a vacation destination) is simply a catlyst for a memory or experience. In other words, all the place swe've ever been are just the physical manifestation/expression of the experiences we've had. Anyplace we have been is nothing more than a setting for experience. Thus, our entire percieved world is nothing more than a psychological patchwork of memories, experiences and events that ultimately play or played some part in shaping who we are. Every area we have ever traveled on is a subjective physical perception of our internal psychological make-up. Savvy?

 

Oh, also, me and my smoking buddies were high when we realized that "DSL" is "LSD" backwards...so we came up with this whole theory about how acid is transferred through the internet in a virtual cyber-reality. It was kinda cool, but stupid stoner talk, really...

 

You misread my post, I said through a Physicist's eyes, as in one who studies physics, not a psychiatrist. I'll give you an example; the earth spinning around the sun. Here's a graphic for mental clarity:


To an ordinary person they see earth spinning in a circular path, revolving around the sun due to gravity, moving in a circle in three dimensions. They see the Earth travelling a curved path around the sun.

But to a physicist instead he sees that it is following the nearest thing to a straight path in curved space, but the mass of the sun curves space-time in such a way that although the earth follows a straight path in four-dimensional space-time, it appears to us to move along a circular orbit in three-dimensional space. In other words, he sees the earth moving in a straight path along curved space.

See the difference? While both viewing the same visual they are perceiving it differently. The physicist's view has been enlightened by general relativity; just as weed can be used to change how one perceives the world around you.

 

I tend to be more philosophical when I smoke, but that's not really a justification for why I smoke... I smoke because I enjoy the experience, no more, no less. The different frame of mind helps, however, when I want to see something in a different light.

 

Paintballer and Jimi: I can feel what you guys say. Except for the DSL thing.

Your perception is always altered by your past experiences. Every memory and bit of information you have in your knowledge banks affects your current perspective. The rules of apperception. It's the introspective apprehension by the mind of it's own inner state of growth/action. Layman's terms: to percieve new experiences in relation to past experiences.

Jimi: your future is waiting. Every one of these catalysts will change your future perceptions. This is enlightenment.

Paintballer: I agree especially with the last paragraph about two people viewing the same thing but having a different perspective of it. This reminds me of one of the first beautiful occurrences in my life that allowed me to break the chains of my mind. I was simply driving, admiring the scenery... admiring it passively you could say... until suddenly and for no reason, I saw the world in color. I could view the world actively instead of passively and I realized the natural perfection of the world. The world was in color where it was once almost monochromatic. Everything was the same, but now the distinctions are clear between action and reaction, thinking and feeling, moving and being. It all made sense to me. And I wasn't the least bit high. i could go on, but I'm trying to keep it brief. I know you guys are stoners.

 

I can get the jist of what you're saying but I can't say I truly understand, I just hope I can have some sort of eye openers like that.
One time, I was hiking in the mountains when I got a pretty nice view of some other, smaller mountains which faded into a white fog or mist. It was at that moment that I saw the earth for the size it truly is. Up until then I saw the mountains as just an ordinary view, but after I saw it as the limiter of my view upon such expanses, it allowed me to view the earth from a new perspective I'd never seen before. I can't quite explain it, I really wish I could it was an amazing thing.

 

^exactly

 

Man, the most enlightenment was hands down on shrooms. But it seems I can never remember exactly what it was when I become sober... I'll hafta carry a notepad around next time.

 

yeh i feel precisely what youre sayin natural philosophy, its not really like colour, but thats just a way of expressing it. its like first things are just the things that they are, and then they become relative functions of the universe. thats another way of putting it

as far as my understanding of physics goes, i see an orbit as an object continually falling to a point. i dont know if this counts as a curve or a straight line but i found it pretty profound when it finally clicked, and was no more a set of vectors on the classroom white-board

 

yes, that was meant to be a joke. I was just displaying some idiotic stoner talk of mine. But I seriously was enlightened by the whole "perception" concept.

 

^ lol. I know dude

Bill: "they become relative functions of the universe." is a great way of putting it into words. Thanks.

 

That's pretty much correct. When massive bodies such as the earth are in orbit they are 'falling to a point' through the shortest possible route, which we all know is a straight line; this is actually called a geodesic. It's 'falling' in a straight line through space-time but because the fabric of space itself is actually warped due to the sun it appears to be a circular path.

 

i thought it looks like a circle because it is not just falling but also moving sideways at orbital velocity. the vector directions constantly change relative to the body and so this, if viewed over any span of time, traces a rough circle around the star