Empire

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Jan 30, 2005.

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    ( ∞ ) INFINITY

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    That has nothing to do with stability... The US has historically had lower inflation rates than most european nations
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, most of my time is spent researching this stuff. I am not calling myself an expert, but I am pretty well-read.

    Look... economists have been saying left and right that there is a good chance that we could see a complete collapse of the economy within the next five years unless some drastic changes are made. And just imagine what will happen to the economy if we are attacked again.
     
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    Nope. I honestly believe that history will end with a global regime.
     
  4. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    But if it's all been planned, then the 'empire' is not about to crumble, merely one of it's holdings, a tool that is no longer useful... :rolleyes:
    Seriously though, the infrastructure is quite important in these matters... :D
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    That's what you think.
     
  6. happyhippyflower

    happyhippyflower Sucker Punch

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    I got'cha dude. Convos about this to each other is just preaching to the choir. More power to you.
     
  7. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Oh, and global government is a bad thing, we need opposing factions to idealy create a balance of power. :D
     
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    Yep, I think the american infrastructure can outlast its form of government, so If a new empire shouls arise, then it will arise from the same soil as America...

    Maybe it will just be another, more enlightened, America.
     
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    Yeah, but that can be done in the global parliament...
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You think I'm preaching to the choir?

    Most people think I am crazy for saying what I'm saying because they operate under the notion that it could never happen here. They also haven't read what I've read, and they're definitely not hearing about it in the mainline media.

    I am sorry if I seem to be preaching. I am just trying to stir up some convo. It can get pretty dull in here sometimes.
     
  11. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Who do you think we owe this debt to rat?

    Sweden? Japan?

    Japan owes us money.

    The vast vast majority of the US national dept lies in outstanding bonds.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    No, most of it is owed to the Federal Reserve and government accounts, followed by foreign and international.
     
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    ..and besides, when we talk about debt, we have to talk about it as a fraction of the GDP. The US actually has a low Debt to GDP ratio.
     
  14. Soulless||Chaos

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    That's the thing, the majority is owed to the federal reserve because of the way it is set up (unconstitutionaly, and monopolisticaly) and as such should be destroyed, thereby eliminating much of our debt. :D
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Hmmm.... I wonder who I should trust more; economists with degrees, who study this for a living, or a couple dudes on an online forum.
     
  16. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Exactly, the GDP growth is still dramatically outpacing the dept growth.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, but it won't. Because it doesn't benefit the elite.
     
  18. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    You're saying all economists, despite being unable to agree with each other, agree with you?
     
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    And the US has a lower debt-to-GDP ratio than Japan and the most of Europe.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    No, I'm saying that I agree with some economists.
     
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