El Chapo: Who is really to blame?

So El Chapo was convicted yesterday, but I ask isn't he just like any other capitalist?
He was only meeting a demand for supplies.
Granted, he supposedly had people murdered, but there are many capitalists who do that, just maybe not so overtly.

 

This is not 'Nam

That's the difference If other business men or entrepreneurs are caught not playing by the rules there are consequences too. Murdering or give direct orders to murdering is simply a big no no.

 

The media makes him out to be major player in the coke and meth game. He's not he is a middle man and like all middle men if your supplier is pissed or in a bind you go down. For the next 5-10 years of more they can cite this bust as evidence the war on drugs works. Now no one expects a new bust and money is made.

My guess is Chapo pissed of the wrong person or was too flashy with his wealth. Too much pressure to act now the public demands it.

The CIA gets you coming and going.

Buy the drugs and go to private prison, sell it for them and go a different wing of the same prison. Who do you think Ok's the tunnels that get the coke here?

 

Chapo is different only because he wasn't a recognized leader. Our presidents and congress men and women routinely have people killed so they can maintain power and, in a lot of instances, make money.

So, hey, if you want to kill people and make money, do it the honorable way. Run for office!

 

I read el chapo worked for the cia I also read a lot of drug leaders worked for foreign governments there is a book by Gary Webb called unholy alliance that talks about it

 

you cross the line as a "businessman" when you start killing people

 

Capitalists let the market forces decide who can call themselves a capitalist. If you kill people in the third world that nobody cares about, you are a capitalist if you do so with the blessing of the US government and call yourself a freedom fighter.

 

I think he's guilty. He's done something.

 

What if El Chapo’s billion-dollar narcotics empire included human trafficking and Child Pornography – would you consider him just another supply and demand capitalist

 

Corporate america does that all the time.

I hadn't heard he was doing that.

 

Bill Gates does not have his own personal murder/kidnapping squad.

 

I am not going to debate someone who doesn't get my point.

 

That's blue collar work, he farms out to the Blue Screen of Death!

 

ok, but saying El Chappo is just your "average american businessman" is invalid.

 

Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey

The point is understood just fine. But the rest here seems to see a difference between making a profit over other peoples head and kill or giving direct orders to kill people that trouble your business. Might be something to it

 

I see the wording going wrong here:

Yes, there are many capitalists who do so. But in average capitalist enterprises its still not the norm. So no, a murdering drug kingpin is not like any other capitalist entrepreneur. In criminal drug business it is far more normal.

 

You don't know that for sure man. The G Team may very well be a thing......

 

I'm sure ol' Billy is responsible for the overthrow of many secret shadow governments, including the Shadow Moses Incident.

 

If there is any fault with the capitalistic system, it's the American imperialistic drive which forced central america to close down their very legal production factories, through a series of foreign policies and US strong-arming negotiations in that region, through the threat of the US military. The US, fearing competition from central america, asked the region to close down its industries under the promise that it was in their best interest to become an agriculture-based economy, and to leave industry/factory production to the US, setting the region back several decades. The US in turn would keep their end of the bargain in this deal by helping their economy grow by purchasing all of the produce they generated, and that an equilibrium would be established between the two. Shortly after the region was stripped of its factories the US neglected their end of the bargain, leaving the region with devalued surplus produce and a economy in shambles, the government would soon follow, planting the seed and generating the chaos that now plagues the region. This social state, as seen when done in any other part of the world, creates an atmosphere ripe for criminal organization and lawlessness.