This is sort of unrelated... When my dad was in college he studied methods of electrically acquiring knowledge since when you learn something it is just an electrically pulse. So he thought, you should be able to stimulate an electrical pulse in the brain that would cause you to learn something... makes sense really, though he didn't get anywhere in his research.
so does electricity hold information .. would the electricity have too be given information that is to be transmited ?. i don't get the concept .. maybe it is not madness but i would not like any experiments done on me.. .I take it it was only low voltage ?
I never really asked for specifics on it, but when your brain acquires knowledge, the electrical current doesn't "hold" information. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think it's just simply a shock that connects with... I have no idea. I'm sure in the future some time this will be possible... maybe they'll be able to send currents through the womb and babies will be born knowing how to talk and write... creepy.
okay we know a few things 1. einstein was autistic a. Autism forces you to think associationally as opposed to logically (i.e. every time an autistic hears the word dog they may have in their mind the picture of every dog they ever encountered but first and foremost there would be a certain dog, a tab on a folder as it were b. Most autistics do math, even in their minds with manipulatives, think base ten blocks in your head c. most autistics, epileptics and illiterate people have an underdeveloped corpus collosum allowing them to totally seperate emotion and analytical thought (think built in labotomy that actually works) d. Certain autistics (it's estimated 1 in 10) become savants, it is not known why but it is suspected to be related to their intense concentative abilities that some of their peers lack 2. albert einsterin was bad at math in his youth 3. the man unified electromagnetism and gravetation in one elegant theory of relativity what else do we know, I know the stuff about the autistic mind from being outfitted with one and observing others with them , association is easy and how the world works, someone else mentioned association and learning, I don't know could be a link, he had certain parts of his brain hardwired thar other people have to detour to get to.
I am going to have too go back on myself and call it madness .. please ask him if you don't mind ? was he trying to re activate memory by stimulating the brain with electricity ?.. it all sounds very creepy
Lol... I'm sure I've got a brain mutation of some sort, but it's probably not a good one. I actually took an IQ test once upon a time and they told me that I had about a 132 when I was in tenth grade. Then I started smoking pot again and took it again while I was high just out of curiosity, and I got a 155 last year. I thought IQ went down as you got older and stoned, but apparently something happened. Someone told me about that group that all those people are in to be official genius folk or whatever... MENSA, right? It seems like it's some way to show off to me, and I don't really think having an above average IQ when you're stoned counts anyways. Sometimes pot makes you see things in a different light, and that's what it seems like it's all about to me. Being a genius doesn't seem like it's really a desirable aspiration because it seems the more I learn, the less satisfied I am. As of now, I'm hardly able to sleep at night because I lay awake trying to think of ways to solve every little problem in the world and it's really becoming an obsessive anxiety disorder and there's really know way to describe it to you other than to relate it to that anxiety you got in 8th grade before you got your report card and you knew your parents weren't gonna be happy and that you were gonna be grounded for all eternity and you would probably never see your new girlfriend again. It sucks ass, and I hate it, but as I've met other people with high IQs, all I see is that the majority of these people are confused and depressed and suffering from anxiety and other social and psychological disorders. Anyways... I'm thinkin' I've just got a brain tumor like John Travolta in Phenomenon. When I start moving shit, I'll let ya know, but till then... I guess I'll just continue to do my own thing. To get back on to Einstein... the dude was smart, but think about at what cost did his "gift" come? Can it even be called a gift from his inner perspective? I don't believe it can be, and I'm sure that there are people all over the place who have brain mutations just like his own and I'm sure there are a lot more "genius" people out there than we really have any knowledge about. How accurate is a test that a stoner can do well on while he's high and not quite as well when he's sober? I honestly believe that we would be amazed to learn the IQs of a large sampling of homeless people and lower class intellectuals. My old math teacher told me about her friend who is a registered member of MENSA and you know what he does for a living with his genius mind? He delivers mail. Perhaps genius characters aren't quite as "high-profile" as Einstein was made out to be. Look at what he did for humanity, but then look at what did that contibuted towards our demise as well. Even genius individuals can't control what powerful retards will do with the works of their hands and minds.
I'll ask him next time I see him, which will be in about two weeks; if this thread isn't still running strong I'll PM you unless others are interested. He wasn't trying to reactivate memories, he was trying to stimulate new connections. For instance, if you've never met me and I tell you my name, you hear it, and the sound gets somehow turned into an electrical signal which ends up in the brain where it stores the signal so that next time I see you, you remember my name. What he was trying to do was present that current without any other gain of information. And remember, there is really low voltage in our bodies so it shouldn't take much of a shock to transfer the information... you might not even be able to feel it. To me the whole idea sounds completely probable within the next twenty or thirty years and it's more dangerous than it is creepy, I think.
Thankyou.. please do Due to my active imagination i was thinking of dexters laboratory , rather than theoretical possibilities..i think i am understanding a little better now..again thanks.
i think it's scientisits obssesing over the brain being the key to all intelligence and knowledge etc,...einestien therefore must have had a deformed brain...i bet everyones brain has an unusual abnormality. In japan they think you think though your belly. why does it have to be his brain...it could be his style if perception. it's exciting if they think he's some superior human..mutation! lol. monks have had studies done on their brains, and they're all wierd and mutated. cool i didn't know he was autistic.
IQ test questions are kinda interesting... they've got stuff that makes you think "outside the box." You're also being monitored for speed in which you complete the test, along with what types of answers you choose. It's pretty complex shit I guess.
my friend had loads of those tests becuase she's cool.............they ended up evaluting her as having a perfectly normal brain...but an alternative mind...yeahhhh!!! they were stup[id for trying to label her dyselxic/autistic/etc....she just thinks in different ways. ps. shes called apphia.!
1. on the electrical signal teaching thing a guy taugha a chunk of cow brain to fly a flight simulator, it takes off lands (it sleeps on the ground) accomplishes all maneuvering and can even accomplish complex mission objectives, their is a slab of rat brain that can handle cga graphics (at least I think that was what they had the rat brain doing) and for the last poster, autism isn't bad, it doesn't nessescarily make someone stupid, just different, I have a weischler (sober) of 156, btw your I.Q. shouldn't change as you age it's a logarithim (that was spelled wrong methinks) based upon Mental age versus Calender age Example: A 3 year old knows everything an average 30 year old does i.e. has an off the chart I.Q. A 30 year old has the amount of knowledge an average 30 year old does he has an I.Q. of 100 100=average
yeah, soz..i meant the testers were stupid, not autism. in this case, they were doing something without meaning because she wasn't labellable, just different. No I have spent some time researching autism and savant syndrome before, it is a tuly fascinating subject and mystique. a good site is http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/savant/default.cfm do you have any good sites on it I could look it up on? thanks
my iq was 159 when i was 8 so i got to skip a year. But i did it a few years ago and it was 149! what does that mean?I'm scared to do it again incase it drops another 10!
I live in an autistic brain so I've got a lot of first hand info (epilepsy statics some stuff though so it's fun) I've read a few books, the only one I can remember at the moment is thinking in pictures by temple grandin (she is also autistic) if you look for info just avoid anything coming out of UNR like the plague, their program is saying autistics have no emotions at all (total bullshit) I had heard I.Q. may range as much as fifteen points, it also does depend upon the tester, good day bad day all sorts of variables, My first time I got 141, just over that 1% threshhold, And people say genius is special, just 1% of the population