ego loss/realizations

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  1. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    the dissolution of duality is about the highest vision i think we are capable of. it also scares the shit out of me to be honest, because in solitude iv watched my dreams fade as well as my illusions.

    the whole human adventure really is quite beautiful, but i do get tired of it sometimes.
     
  2. MokshaMedicine

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    I find it funny you get tired of it. I can relate.

    Also simply what I meant desos was not that duality isn't real but there would be absolutely no reason for duality if it didn't make the whole that was ever so more important.
     
  3. spexxx

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    Reminiscing of the dissolution of duality from inside of it, has it become another dream of yours?

    Perhaps they're one in same.


    Personally, when I find myself getting tired of "certain things", I find the only thing that really helps, is to stop thinking of them, so that new things can come in. Step out the circle and give it a rest, and come to it again another day on a clean slate, if you are able.

    Recognize "things" in "life" as equal, though choose for yourself which is important. Sometimes we can "unwittingly" "cosign" power to certain things which in honesty do not warrant it, so that they dictate our level of comfort by the matter of their absence and/or presence.

    Best of luck man.
     
  4. thedope

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    I carefully use the words can, may, and some, in the hopes that what I say will find acceptance with the most.
     
  5. Desos

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    well they are both equally important. because without the parts there would be no whole.

    ever heard the proverb can't see the forest for the trees? well once you can see the 'forest' it doesn't mean you should just ignore the 'trees.' otherwise you're doomed to start over as a small seed.

    ^lol seeds, i crack myself up.
     
  6. MokshaMedicine

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    What cracks me up is that you think I was saying something opposite of what you just said. A little attached to dualism are we?
     
  7. Desos

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    glad i could make you laugh. :D

    but the reason i responded is because you said 'ever so more important'
     
  8. spexxx

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    Any reason why you are mocking my signature Johnny Boy? I say what I think as technically and specifically as I can, not because I am coaxing another to agree. And if you are having a nice day while we're at it, that is always a plus. :D
     
  9. MokshaMedicine

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    I don't know "ever so" is a weird phrase. But yes I guess there is a little division between us lol. Because yeah the whole is more important.duh. its bliss not happiness nor sadness
     
  10. spexxx

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    Nice, you ever heard how if you tell a kid the name of a bird, they never see it the same way again?
     
  11. thedope

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    I wasn't, that I was aware of. You will find me tireless in pushing the edges back, assaulting the confines. I do not use these words to coax, but rather to present no threat and thereby not arouse defensiveness. The terms are polite and undemanding.
     
  12. spexxx

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    Yeah, my misunderstanding. I thought you were trying to say, you said things a certain way to be accepted pretty much. It seems like this would imply that they aren't always so genuine. But obviously it was my Bumble Bee as usual dopeboyfresh
     
  13. Desos

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    i think it's happiness, and sadness, bliss, hell, heaven, everything...

    I embrace my desire to
    feel the rhythm, to feel connected
    enough to step aside and weep like a widow
    to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
    to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
    to swing on the spiral
    of our divinity and still be a human.
     
  14. MokshaMedicine

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    I guess it's just my personal belief, but bliss is not just another one of those emotions. Bliss is not effected by gain or loss as is all those others.

    I don't really want to continue this argument though, it's an argument between whether multiple aspects make a whole OR multiple aspects make a whole. LOL

    So peace.
     
  15. thedope

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    The whole defines the parts, but the parts do not define the whole. In real terms, or absolute terms, everything else is an abstraction.
     
  16. spexxx

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    That's an awfully bold statement dopemanfreshskee. The whole is nothing without it's parts. And yet at the same time it's our learned perception that is ultimately breaking a whole down into parts. Everything we know is reality in relation to man. Reality in relation to a trees subjective experience? What is a tree in relation to another tree? To say that reality is a box and man is one observing this box as from the outside, seems to contradict. Man is in the box with his observations.
     
  17. thedope

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    The views that we cultivate are corridors of refraction with in the "box", if that is what you want to call inviolate reality.
    Wholeness without its' parts is a contradiction of terms. There are no parts to wholeness.
     
  18. spexxx

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    Oooh. I see what you mean now, I had misunderstood you originally.

    When you were saying "In real terms, or absolute terms, everything else is an abstraction.",

    by "everything else",

    did you mean the parts which we 'think makes up' the 'whole' are the 'abstraction'?

    I can see what you mean though that there are no parts to wholeness. Parts implies a split, which is not whole by definition.
     
  19. thedope

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    I love math.
     
  20. spexxx

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    Same, I just sucked at plane geometry. LOL can you tell?

    Edit -

    "And yet at the same time it's our learned perception that is ultimately breaking a whole down into parts", would you agree to that statement though?
     

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