Educational System

Yep. Education is a conspiracy. Nothing good ever comes from it. Everything is black and white. Throw away your computer; it's the product of capitalism and evil book larnin'.

 

I never said that nothing good comes from it, there are pros and cons and yes education is important, the right kind of education. The education our kids are getting today is more for meterialism and greed. I say go back to the old ways of the pioneers, living of the land, log cabins, beautiful forest and a basic education that teaches you to live off the land. Dismantel these big greedy corporations and plant trees, Go back to the old ways.

 

We all know you're a smart guy pav... but you can't seriously formulate an opinion of the ENTIRE college experience based off of your own short experience in Conway, AR. There are institutions out there which i'm sure even you would find challenging.


That being said, the public education system in this school other than college, is FUCKING RETARDED. It's better in some states than others. What we really need to do in this country (and it will never be done) is to forge some kind of national unity on education... god forbid we pump some goverment funding into it as well. Cuz lets face it folks, NCLB didn't really help all the much (thanks Mr. Bush)

 

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I think sometimes you luck out with our educational system (I'm talking Canadian, but it's not too different from American in the end) and get an amazing teacher who pushes you, who helps you learn new things and keeps you interested in learning, makes you want to better yourself just because you can. And sometimes you don't luck out and you get bitter old teachers who don't care if you live or die let alone pass or fail, and who stare at your boobs all class, or who give you bonus marks for falling asleep in class instead of asking questions because it's less work for them that way.

 

Much of the problem with grade schools in certain areas has less to do with money than the teachers. It's hard to get quality educators in some of these places for fear of their lives. You can bitch about it all you want, but if you want to make a difference, earn a teaching degree, buy a flack jacket, and get a job at one of these inner city schools.

 

Who controls the system that is enslaving the people?

 

It's not just a single person, but rather a network at the top, which exercises its control from the top-down.

 

I am refering to the public university system in America, I am sure that private schools are more challanging. Plus, I never base my opinion on experience alone, that would be silly. I've heard alot and read alot of bad things about the American public college system.

 

I definatley think that the schooling system is designed to train kids for mediocrity and to be good working class citizens...it doesn't train people for greatness, but I guess it wouldn't be true greatness if they gave you training right?

One time when I was really high in my English class, I had a startling realization about how it is probably true there is some conspiracy at the top of the education system...but I forget that realization now, though I still believe it and think there is something fishy about the way our schooling is done. And corruption in the college system is obvious, all you have to do is look at the price lists for how much an education costs to see that.

With that said, I've learned a lot at school.

It's good for helping me get out of the house, and some of the teachers are great. Though most are under-paid and not inspired to teach their given subject, some really have a passion to teach, or at least for the material that they teach, and that shines through if your lucky and get a good teacher. To me, watching someone lecture about something they love is an awesome experience.

 

i dunno. i'm definitely, despite jokes to the contrary, not mediocre. parents are more to blame for the boringness of kids than anything else. kids sleeping in seperate rooms, kids not encouraged by boredom to develop more interesting aspects. it's not so much the one region (school) in their lives that makes kids unable to think out of the box so much as parents looking for social ritalin to make their overburdened lives easier. you can't so much blame parents for trying to find a little relief, so much as blame a world that makes that relief such a necessity.

 

If I was on the top I'd get fucked up all the time and fuck Ho's.

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Jah No Dead, Jah No Dead.

 

I agreee that education is what you make of it. and kudos to the lady teaching her kids along with the school. "it takes a village to raise a child" i think it should be a combined effort of parents and teachers to encourage the child to not just get good grades but really learn
public school can be too much about just making the grade but i think the parent should show the child how important, wonderful, and mind-opening learning can be

and in today's world education is a must. you have to be educated if you want to survive in today's crazy world. kids need to know early on education can be salvation

and as for college i go to a state university and i love it.
some teachers aren't so great but many are wonderful and really want you to analyze and think critically about material rather than just memorizing stuff

 

UF?

 

What evidence do you have to support this view?

 

All I know is that I've already paid my taxes to support the government schools, and I dang sure am not going to pay more for a babysitter during the day.

 

It should be common knowledge, unless you believe the system is set up to work to your benefit, then in that case you're just naive. But most people are.

 

On the other side of the coin, believing it's purposely set up to your detriment, reeks of a paranoid delusion. I'm just saying that it seems there's a little truth to both sides of the question. I don't deny that I was lucky retaining my full individuality and getting a very valuable education in and out of the classroom. But I was also miserable socially for the 14 years between preschool and college. Maybe the reason there's so much conformism is that it's human nature to want to fit in, and not draw attention to yourself, because my experiences have proven most of that attention is negative. Life is what you make it, and it takes good parenting to instill that notion, not a free public (or even paid private) education.

 

No, it is not common sense... it is a common conspiracy theory. There is a difference. Common sense is this: When you spill something on the floor in your house, you clean it up so it won't attract ants or if you leave milk out, it will go bad. Assuming that there is an elite group who has been orchestrating the evolving world for the last several hundred years with unmatched knowledge and eternal forsight is not common sense. That is fuckin retarded.

Now, are you able to provide your reason for believing this or not? What you call common sense is nothing more than some idea that you've picked up from some other creative individual along the way.

Belief and Knowledge are not the same thing.
Common sense deals with knowledge.

Belief in an elite superpower puppeteer, with absolutely zero evidence to support it, is not common sense.

 

Too much conspiracy. I don't feel as if though my education up until this date has been exclusively as a way to force me into contemporary society and rid me of independent thought. I mean, attending a public high school, I have been frequently called out for sitting down through the pledge of allegiance.

But whatever. I have no beef.

 

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