Ecstasy as Psychedelic?

@illusion25: You mean, the single GCMS-verified report on EcstasyData? That round, brown mass that looks like someone mashed a dime of bird into a ball and sent it into analysis? Anyone eating something like that deserves what they get.

@local: The speckles are due to contaniments leftover from a clandestine manufacture process; they don't necessarily indicate the inclusion of heroin, meth, or any other drug being pressed with the pill...merely a good sign that the pill is infact MDxx, and that the starting material is somewhat impure.

@peacelovebarefeet: Heroin is actually quite inexpensive...but oral doses being pressed into tablets and sold as Ecstasy would be a ludicrous marketing scheme indeed, as junkies are much more willing to buy dope on a regular basis than ravers are to buy E.

 

LSD: Ive been getting the number 1 stunners, i know their floating all over NC, have you had a chance to try them? Most of the batch doesnt have speckles except a few, but when i get the clean ones its a good night.

 

Yes They Are Rare But Do Happen

 

Haven't tasted any rolls lately...my contact's been flaking out on me (blew $200 of my last batch on Xan's that got jacked by a crackhead). If they're really dank I might check 'em out.

About half the rolls I ever come across were speckled...speckles are a sign of a good roll pill because industrial compounds (like Sudafed or DXM) are always 98.5%+ purity, which means that it's atleast some clandestine-manufactured compound like MDxx, meth, or PCP.

Just got a new contact in Boone, so hopefully they can pull me $10 singles like the olden days.

 

never eaten a speckeld roll. have seen them before(rarely) . i try to stay away from e now. i do it about once a year. i have different drugs on my mind now. botanicals and rc's.

 

Same here...was hooked on Ecstasy...ate around 20-50 rolls any given week, and about half were speckled.

I now only stick to true entheogenic substances, with the occasional expedetion to entheogenic compounds and synthetic hallucinogens...

 

can you give me some insight on entheogenic substances...like what to use, what to watch out for, etc. Im in the same position as you, was a big time e head but i'm ready to move on and have different experiences.

 

Correction, SHITTY heroin is cheap. An eight ball of good blow in an area where it's popular will be say 100-130 bucks. Heroin comes in ten bags to custies, which depending on quality could be all kinds of different quantities. The raw stuff might only come 25 mg's per ten bag. Now that's 250 mg's a bundle. Say your dealer gives you a break on the bundle, 75 bucks. That's 250 milligrams for 75 bucks. You can get almost 2 grams of blow for that much. FWIK most people do black tar which is very cheap though.


As for finding god within yourself, lots of things can help you, but I recommend LSD. (as most everyone who reads these forums already knows lol)

 

In florida people pay $40 for a 10th of H.

 

Sounds accurate for 'good' stuff.

 

yeah I dont have much personal experience but I grew up with it around me and that was always the price I heard.. speaking of heroin did anyone hear anything about the bust in California a few days ago? they seized a shit load of H and I'm sure prices in Cali are goin way up.

 

This was the "bombest" thread of all time.

 

Oh! How sad!!

 

for 1, y do u always got to be a fucking dick? u think ur better than ne1 here well sry ur deff. not. if anything ur the opposite. i know ppl's opinions r nothing more than just that but ive read alot of your posts and all u ever do is shut people down. dont get me wrong, i love lsd and i love mdma but i wont say ones better than the other cuz they are different feelings. i take blotters for one reason/expierence and mdma for another. and also, if you keep dising mdma and saying "its boring cuz its shit" then why in fuck are you in the mdma forum reading all about it? just to piss people to make yourself happy? STAY IN THE FUCKING LSD/ACID FORUM.

 

Durrrrrrr whurr them thurr ecstamasee's at i's wan roll sa moe.

Uhhh, wtf? Those are your conclusions buddy, if I thought I was "better" (at what? once again, wtf?) I wouldn't be posting at all here. I say what's on my mind, you don't like it don't read it... isn't freedom of speech a beautiful thing?

And what does my opinion of ecstasy as a psychedelic have to do with me thinking i am superior to anyone? And what was the point of you reviving a long dead thread? You didn't even offer your opinion on the topic. Kudos.

Just because I am not a fan of mdma doesn't mean I can't come into a free speech forum and talk about my experiences with it. But, think whatever you want, for all intents and purposes I am not a fan of mdma because I love jerking off while I type posts in the mdma forum that talk about why it's not a psychedelic or my other opinions on it. Really gets me off.

 

"Would you rather listen to Eminem rapping about he just ate 2 rolls, raped his mother, ran over people in his car and passed out, or would you rather hear the Dead sing "China Cat SUnflower", or The Doors do "Moonlight Drive"? X isn't a psychadelic in my mind. It's a euphoriant."

What about Jim Morrison taking too much acid and adding this line to "The End"-- "The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on, he took a face from the ancient gallery and he walked on down the hall. He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he paid a visit to his brother, and then he walked on down the hall, and he came to a door...and he looked inside Father, yes son, I want to kill you. Mother, I want to...fuck you..."

Killing family members and fucking your mother... psychedelics are so happy and peaceful. I dont think the Dead's attitude came from how much acid they took.. maybe their crazy side, but thats about it. The improvisation and the want to jam I could maybe see but since songs like CCat and others were mostly not written by the Dead (derived from old blues numbers, etc.) I think its kind of insulting to attribute their musical excellence to a drug anyone can take. If I had the $$ I could take as much acid as the Grateful Dead and I don't think my music would come out much like theirs... mines gotta have that 128 bpm haha. While acid was a big part of the Grateful Dead my favorite stuff came from them when they were all about the Cocaine which as we all know is def. a real euphoriant.

MDMA is a:
-phenthylamine
-semi-psychedelic
-euphoriant
-molecule
-nuerotoxin
-etc.

 

jim added that line because he was referring to oedipals thingo. yes dont i sound smart by using the word thingo haha

i dont like jim morrison any more anyway but yes thats what the ends oedipal section was about.

but about rolls being classed as a psychedelic, they may induce some visuals, but i dont think they would be classed as that, at least not mdma alone

 

MD for sex, yeah it's quite good actually, and also feeling the music, yeah, that's good to..... but TODAY i fee like SHIT!!! (i did some yesterday) so it's not a perfect experience, no....

 

He added the the part about the oedipal complex because he was tripping his face off on like 10,000ug.. p. 69 of the Lizard King

"It was also when Jim got bombed on LSD and delivered an inspired performance at the Whisky that got them fired. He failed to show up for the first set and when John and Ray went to fetch him, they found him crawling around on his hands and knees, mumbling something about 10,000 micrograms of acid...This was the night that Jim introduced the Oedipal verse..."

and anyone whose done acid knows that it can get weird as fuck that was my whole point with the doors example and fucking your mother... I thought it was stupid to say that acid is a key ingredient in producing "happy" music like China Cat... Marilyn Manson loved acid back in the day also when he produced antichrist superstar and Smells like Children. If you want to classify a drug as psychadelic because of the music that results from it I'd def say that E is a psychadelic, but personally I think that is a very lame criteria.


Cause lets see what Eminem thinks about psychadelics:
lyrics from the song: My Fault by Eminem

I went to John's rave with Ron and Dave
And met a new wave blonde babe with half of her head shaved
A nurse aid who came to get laid and tied up
with first aid tape and raped on the first date
Susan -- an ex-heroin addict who just stopped usin
who loves booze and alternative music (Whattup?)
Told me she was goin back into usin again (Nah!)
I said, "Wait, first try this hallucinogen
It's better than heroin, Henn, the booze or the gin
C'mere, let's go in here" *knocks on the door*
"Who's in the den?"
[R] "It's me and Kelly!"
"My bad, (sorry) let's try another room"
[G] I don't trust you!
"Shut up slut! Chew up this mushroom
This'll help you get in touch with your roots
We'll get barefoot, buttnaked, and run in the woods
[G] Oh hell, I might as well try em, this party is so drab
"Oh dag!!"
[G] What?
"I ain't mean for you to eat the whole bag!"
[G] Huh?!

Chorus: 1st repeat Em says "I'm sorry!" at the end
2nd repeat same as original Chorus

"Yo Sue!"
[G] Get away from me, I don't know you
Oh shoot, she's tripping..
[G] I need to go puke!! (Bleahh!)
I wasn't tryin to turn this into somethin major
I just wanted to make you appreciate nature
Susan, stop cryin, I don't hate ya
The world's not against you, I'm sorry your father raped you
So what you had your little coochie in your dad's mouth?
That ain't no reason to start wiggin and spaz out

She said,
[G] Help me I think I'm havin a seisure!
I said, "I'm high too bitch, quit grabbin my t-shirt" (Let go!)
"Would you calm down you're startin to scare me"
She said,
[G] I'm twenty-six years old and I'm not married
I don't even have any kids and I can't cook
(Hello!) I'm over here Sue, (hi) you're talkin to the plant, look!
We need to get to a hospital 'fore it's too late
Cause I never seen no-one eat as many shrooms as you ate

Chorus: 1st repeat Em says "Whoops!" after first line
and "It was an accident!" at the end
2nd repeat same as original Chorus

Susan (wait!) Where you goin? You better be careful
[G] Leave me alone dad, I'm sick of gettin my hair pulled
I'm not your dad, quit tryin to swallow your tongue
Want some gum? Put down the scissors, 'fore you do somethin dumb
I'll be right back just chill baby please?
I gotta go find Dave he's the one who gave me these
"John, where's Dave at before I bash you?"
[J] He's in the bathroom; I think he's takin a crap dude!
"Dave! Pull up your pants, we need an ambulance
There's a girl upstairs talkin to plants
choppin her hair off, and there's only two days left
of Spring Break, how long do these things take to wear off?"
[D] Well it depends on how may you had
"I took three, she ate the other twenty-two caps
Now she's upstairs cryin out her eyeballs, drinkin Lysol"
[D] She's gonna die dude
"I know and it's my fault!"
[D] My god!!!

Chorus: 1st repeat Em says "I'm sorry!" after second line
and "What do I do?" at the end
2nd repeat same as original Chorus

My God, I'm so sorry!
I'm so sorry! Susan please wake up!
Please! Please wake up!! What are you doing?!
You're not dead!! You're NOT dead!
I know you're not dead! Oh my God!
Susan wake up! Oh God...

 

i really, really dislike eminem