Eastern Gate: An Atheist's Worst Nightmare

There is no Messiah (Son of Man) (except as an idea). All is created by the Lord.

In addition, there are other scriptures that God has given through other incarnations of God (such as Krishna). When God came as Krishna, God said something very important about all scriptures: that those who know God no longer rely upon scripture for guidance, but only God.

You should read the Bhagavad Gita, which is the scripture that God revealed God's self to Hindus in ancient times (before the coming of Christ).

http://hinduwebsite.com/gitaindex.htm

 

Kharakov:

Dude, you're wasting your time. All Campbell and JDFU will tell you is that Satan wrote it.

 

Maybe not. God can lead them into greater knowledge and acceptance of God's will, which includes the fact that God was caring for God's creation far before the incarnation of Christ.

 

SECOND TIMOTHY 4:3,4

(3.) ''FOR THE TIME WILL COME WHEN THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; BUT WANTING TO HAVE THEIR EARS TICKLED, THEY WILL ACCUMULATE FOR THEMSELVES TEACHERS IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR OWN DESIRES, (4.) AND WILL TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH AND WILL TURN ASIDE TO MYTHS."

Kharakov, you are doing what the scriptures have stated men would do. Turn to other doctrines outside of the Bible. I think I will just hold on to my King James. I was never much of a myth guy anyway.

 

It is not hate when one corrects another, it is love.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline."

You "know" what you have read, whether or not it is true is up to God. No man knows these things, only God, but you attempt to teach others your folly.
You hypocrite, you pursue signs of God in ancient fables instead of seeing God's action in everything. By your very actions, you reject the one you claim to love.

The reason you are to avoid foolish disputes is to bask in oneness with God, which you reject in favor of teaching things which you know nothing about. This is the reason for the rebuke against your and campbell's actions.

 

Fool, the Lord has created all things. The false doctrine which you spread is against the words written in the book you claim to follow.

God cared for man long before the bible existed, and will care for the souls of man long after the bible is nothing but an ancient book to introduce the souls of children to God.

When you stop being a fool, you will realise God has created all scripture, not just the single scripture that you cling to without understanding. The Bhagavad Gita supplements the bible, and the other way around. The teachings of both Krishna and Christ teach about the same being, although, within both scriptures there are stumbling blocks for those who do not accept God. This is because you are to rely upon God, not a single scripture.

Isaiah 45:5-7
" I am the LORD, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,


6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
men may know there is none besides me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other. 7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things. "

Even within the Koran, the truth is revealed. This is called "The Cleaving" or The Day of Judgement, when it is revealed to a soul that all is caused by (created by) God.

Every scripture supports knowledge of God, to reject one is to reject all.

 

Well if the Bible is a fable then God is a liar for He authored it. Yet what you call a fable, the God of the Bible calls truth. The things we speak of came from God's Word, the same Word God authored. Gods Words of truth are not folly, but your non acceptence of His truth, is. The Bible is not an ancient Fable, it is ancient truth which you reject. You don't want to hear the prophecies, because you reject the truth. Jesus said heaven and earth may pass away, but My words shall never pass away. Sorry Kharakov, no matter how much you would like to see Christ Words gone, they will be with us, forever. And His words are truth, not fables.

 

There is no other God but one. Yet the one God exist as three persons = One God.
That is why in the Old Testament God states, let US make man in OUR image. And that is why Jesus said, ''if you have seen Me you have seen the Father. And that is why in the New Testament it states that there are three that bare record in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus), and the Holy Ghost, and these three are ONE. An that is why the Jews sought to Kill Christ because He said before Abraham was, I AM. And that is why in the Old Testament The Father claimed to of made the earth alone and by Himself, and the New Testament states that Jesus Christ made the Earth and all things. And that is why in the New Testament it states that Jesus was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.
God authored the Bible, and God is not the author of confusion. He did not create many religious books that counterdict each other. And the Bible states that false doctrins will be found in books outside of the Bible. And those are the books you imbrace. You arguement about me spreading false doctrine is false, because it is the doctrine of Jesus Christ that Authored those Words.
And your arguement is not with me, but with the God of Israel who's Words you call fables.

 

Well said.

It's difficult for some people to accept the fact that there were very profound scriptures in existence before the time of Christ. Not wanting to honestly evaluate this reality, or break the circle of their reasoning, they give credit to the Devil for authorship of these writings.

You might call the Bhagavad-gita Hinduism's East Gate. It's hard to explain away.

 

There are different definitions ... I suggest you look portico up at www.dictionary.com

 

You just called God's words fables... The prophecy I speak of is found in Ezekiel 44:1-3 I trust that His words will stay true. You however don't trust in God's words at all.

 

No I blame the God of this age that has blinded the non-believer...

 

Nobody read my post huh?

 

Someone may have read it, but I've noticed that comments on well reasoned posts that question the prevailing views tend to be rare here.

 

NayKid,

I have not followed the Ezekiel arguements closely, but your clarification and responses are much needed and appreciated. I have, also, noted what Spook13 has pointed out; most, if not all, of the "well thought out" posts have, in terms of directly addressing the content, gone ignored; here, I am not trying to discount any particular arguement but I see that as we approach any issue, anything that we are trying to communicate to another, that connecting to where that other person is "coming from" by addressing their questions and or statements with an 'open mind' in reviewing our own view is essentail. I found posts #251 and #252 very clear and these posts have demonstrated, for me, how we have to be careful to "take a step back and look at the context in which we make interpretations for this is where the clear and true view will tend to emerge. Excellent read, Thank You.


Peace,

David


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The structure today is a portico that is an addition of the old gate.

 

You teach lies about the bible fool. In addition, in your confused and sinning state of mind, you have said lies about what I have said.

Jesus speaks in Parables. A parable is 'a usually short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle'. Do you understand what ficticious means? Untrue!

In Titus and Timothy you are warned against preaching about things which you do not know. You are warned against foolish disputes about fables (Jewish fables in one particular passage). You ignore the bible while claiming to teach it's message!

The bible conveys the truth in fables and parables. You foolish attachment to the literal meaning of fables has blinded you to the truth.

"3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. "

The truth is God, who you have rejected. God creates many ficticious (untrue) stories for us to learn moral principles from. We learn not to rape small children by watching Law and Order SVU. We learn not to murder people by watching shows on TV which God has created to illustrate points.

Your lust is this: that the bible be literally true.

 

I trust in God.

 

Which words are god's? How do you know?

The bible was written by men. Whatever part god played in it, if any, it was written by men. Who were given free will, so they could write whatever they wanted. At best, the bible is god's ideas filtered through very primative human minds.

 

When you say you trust in God... do you mean His words also?