Duck Dynasty Might Be Over

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by EventHorizon, Dec 20, 2013.

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  1. lode

    lode Banned

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    Because a company which broadcasts shows about America's sassiest dogs and prettiest cakes has a significant percentage of it's owners who are gay. When I say my boss is too stupid to breathe on live tv, firing me isn't censorship. Neither is a company which has a large gay audience firing a guy who says an anti-gay thing, it's a business decision the company made.

    I totally agree with big fucking deal. I didn't know about this until today and I roll my eyes when I read "Old duck hunting redneck has racist and homophobic views." Breaking fucking news. :rolleyes:

    Calling this censorship leads to a basic misunderstanding of what the first amendment is, it means no government interference with speech, not that anyone can say any crazy bullshit with no consequences from their peers or employers. If it was the opposite situation, and guy converted to radical Islam and started preaching about jihad, the opposite political current would want him removed from his program. And it would still not be censorship.
     
  2. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    everyone has a boss and if you piss them off they may fire you.
     
  3. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    He was set up for fail to begin with. They asked him certain questions knowing the answer and what his response would be. He goes by the bible, Of course his views will lean that way.

    They will end up, Just like every other show, Dumping a&n and going elsewhere. The turquoise cowboy dog the bounty hunter did and is doing just as good if not better.

    This will only attract more viewers to watch when they do switch and both will make out with big $$. If a&e want to cater to the gay's so be it, DD will make a good chunk from the breach of contract(s) and go sign another for double.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's such a relief to hear from someone who gets it.
     
  5. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Agreed
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I think A&E should give gay people their own reality show now to make amends. The show could be called 'Dick Dynasty'.
     
  7. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Queer eye for the straight guy is still on I think
     
  8. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    I have honestly never watched it, Don't have satellite or cable at home. But the bits and pieces I have seen like the 50min rant, He looked to be in a church, Maybe he was giving a ??

    I chalk the show up to NASCAR offseason replacement. But the guy has his right to say what he feels, Don't like it, Why did you ask him when you knew the outcome!

    I still like chris rock's joke, 'Every family has an Aunt Tom'.
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Of course it's censorship, that doesn't make it illegal or necessarily immoral. And it doesn't necessarily infringe on the constitutional rights of free speech. Free speech has limits. Censorship has pros and cons. No governmental agency is involved with this decision, and no laws have been broken, as I said before.

    As far as censorship, we censor here at Hip Forums...in case you haven't noticed; sometimes we do it right, sometimes we screw up. Most of the time you don't even know it has happened. But we still try to allow as much free speech as we can. We operate within certain principles of morality and within certain laws in an attempt to maintain the integrity of the site. Without censorship this place would be a mess of child porn, personal attacks, spam, and proselytizing rants.

    A&E and all other media outlets do the same. No one has to agree with how they censor their output, as long as it's within the law, they are free to uphold their values just as everyone else is free to uphold theirs.

    Just as this duck guy can spout off his views, A&E can showcase theirs. Likewise any group is free to support either side, the duck people are free to be disgusted by the gays and the gays are free to be offended by the ducks.
     
  10. odonII

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    I do not think anything he said is in the Bible *chuckle* that being the point.

    You might be pleased to know that a majority of 'media watchers' say that there are six main organisations not twenty. There are approx 7 news outlets in the UK and I hear a wide variety of views. Are you telling me in a country where the UK can fit into one of your lakes there is not a plethora of voices to be heard? I say BS.
    It is in the interests of 'the media' to cater for a wide variety of people.

    If you think 'Fox News' is pro Republican how do you square that Fox has some of most liberal shows on US TV? BTW, Fox news only has a couple of million viewers.
    What most of us see are the snippets from their opinion shows on liberal comedy shows...
    I would say Fox News can't be so easily pigeonholed - but I accept it is not the same as the other main news outlets.

    Perhaps watch a lot more TV.
     
  11. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    I understand why they would can the guy. Especially after actually seeing some of the shit dude was saying (When I first posted in here I was led by my coworkers to believe that he only quoted the Bible and said that he doesn't agree with homosexuality). But what I think is silly is that they paid the guy to be himself on camera...because his/their antics are apparently entertaining enough for a hit show. They're beliefs on the subject wasnt any secret, it was already apparent before he ever said anything. Hell, I've never even seen the show but I could have told you how they feel about homosexuality judging only by Internet memes and their merchandise that I've seen on the shelves. Their backwoods way of life is what sold the TV show, it's the reason people watch it. Saying those things just seems like a part of the character that they built around him. I don't blame A&E for getting rid of him, I just think it's a bit Hypocritical of them to punish the guy for playing the role that they paid him to portray.
     
  12. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Fox News and Fox, while both owned by News Corp, are run by different people and operate by different philosophies. Fox News is definitely pretty far too the right, even going as far as to support PACS of republican candidates and post their phone numbers.

    I think your statement would have been more accurate to say, "21 Century Fox, as a broadcasting company, cannot be so easily pigeonholed."
     
  13. Mothman

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    I do watch the show. Everyone else on the show is cool. Phil Robertson turned my stomach long before this event took place. The guy seems to think everything he says is pure gold and he is very close minded. I just watched an episode where they hired a pet photographer to come out and take pictures of him and his wife with their dogs. He was a total ass hat to the photographer the entire time and I think it was because the guy may have been gay. Not to stereotype but the guy had that vibe but he was a total pro and handled Phil's bullshit like a champ.

    This isn't the first time he's gotten stupid during an interview either. He was on a morning show not long ago and was asked about fans showing up at the shop due to the popularity of the show and he went on a tangent about being armed and ready to shoot it out and people better not show up with ideas of raping our women and it just went on and on and he sounded like an asshole. I'm sure the fans are obnoxious but so far there has been no attempts to rape their women so his rant was not really appropriate.

    As far as his comments about people bowing down to lizards and such...where does he get this shit? I know many pagans and have yet to see that happen. It's this kind if preaching coming from Christian pulpits (the guy is a minister) that causes people to hate the ignorance pumped out of that religion and it's ignorant and proud ambassadors like Phil Robertson.
     
  14. Meliai

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    If they are in breach of contract, I'm sure the duck dynasty crew can and will sue them. Otherwise, I don't see how A&E did anything wrong. They are a private company and therefore they have the right to end their contract for any reason they see fit - TV networks do it all the time for reasons generally tied into ratings. Businesses see the bottom line and the bottom line is the network is worried about advertisers pulling their money out because of this. Its the exact same reason Paula Deen was dropped from food network or whatever network dropped her.

    what I said above pretty much applies here too. TV networks can choose not to renew a contract with an actor for any reason.

    Freedom of speech doesn't mean you're guaranteed a platform to spew your stupid opinion. If that were the case anyone who has ever tried to publish anything could cry censorship because no one wanted to provide them a platform for their words.
     
  15. deleted

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    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the Kingdom of God...
    .. Good luck with all that money ya stupid duck fucks..
     
  16. Wizardofodd

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  17. odonII

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    I know they are. That was kinda the point. It's the same with most of the media.
    But you knew that. I think it's easier to say that 21st century Fox are difficult to pigeonhole.
     
  18. Aerianne

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    LOL, Duck Dynasty sure has a bunch of people upset.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW343K1-upo&feature=share"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW343K1-upo&feature=share
     
  19. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Checked out the everlastinggopstoppers site. Great rant on those phony yuppie millionaires. The pictures of them and their families BEFORE this manufactured "hillbilly lifestyle" got on the boob tube are indicative of the fantasy world of TV and those that will believe anything. Check it out. NEVER MIND-------AERIANNE PUT IT RIGHT UP THERE.



    (That guy rants like I do when I'm het up---love it)
     
  20. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    That guy spewed the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever herd. LMFAO, Yep, They signed a paper and BOOM, They all have long beards and hair?
    I have a beard, If that were the case, They signed their first contract 2-3 years before the show started filming. If you think those pic's are real, Good for you, I know I can find a pic of Michael Jackson when he was black and white, Its the same fucking thing.
    Anyone can find pic's of a look alike family and yell at a camera and claim 'he's southern'. Hes no more than a butt hurt osamanite idiot who is poor and wants to be just like them. Too bad hes to stupid and sat and cried from his doublewide with nothing but lie's.

    Out of all the BS, One and only one vid of a complete lowlife cussing and bitching=envy. That's all I herd through his bullshit claims and screaming. There is maybe a handful of idiots who think hes 'telling the truth'. Oddly, The truth is out there and this guy is spinning it until it fits his butt pirate agenda.
    Oh well, its a win/win for DD money wise and publicity wise. I have still yet to see any worthwhile sponsors drop them. Plus the fact the vast majority of the country is in support, They can suck a fart out of phil's asshole.
    In the end, Who cares. They are going to walk away with more money either way and there are other networks ready to start filming.
     
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