dreadlocks significance in my opinion[bible reference]

Discussion in 'Dreadlocks' started by coreymichael, May 28, 2009.

  1. Pat__

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    A christian says it is noah's ark

    And not only that, the article claims scientists will be brought in to verify.

    A christian's idea of a large boat being noah's ark is not proof. Read the article again. It did not say that is noah's ark
     
  2. jimnuggits

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    Think on this one Corey: What was Jesus' sacrifice if he knew he was the son of god? that's like giving someone all the money in your pocket when you know you have a winning lotto ticket at home...
     
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    this is what I found http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm
    it says they found "high-tech metal alloy fittings" (quoting from the site here) did they really have stuff like that in noah's time? don't think so.
    Seriously though this website is run by a extremist christian- I'd like to see some scientific proof that this is the actual ark, like carbon dating. Seems like that's the first thing they would do. but no.
    and if carnivores don't need meat then what do they eat? grass? don't think so.
     
  4. coreymichael

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    2nd law of Thermodynamics, how can the earth be billions of years old? impossible. not even millions.

    Now the second law of thermodynamics tells us everything tends toward disorder - everything is falling apart, nothing gets better by itself. You leave things alone for awhile and they fall apart, folks. Nothing gets better! ...... Nothing gets better by itself. Everything tends toward chaos.....

    The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that heat can never pass spontaneously from a body at a lower temperature to one with a higher temperature; or no process is possible whose only result is the abstraction of heat from a single heat reservoir and performance of an equivalent amount of work.

    What does this mean you might be asking? The first part, lower temperature to higher temperature, is illustrated by a cup of hot coffee in a normal room. Heat will flow from the coffee into the room but wont flow from the room into the coffee. Its rather obvious when you think about it. The second part means you cant operate anything with perfect efficiency. It is this property of the Universe which makes it impossible to build perpetual motion machines.

    What Hovind is trying to weave in here is the concept of entropy. Entropy is the amount of randomness of the arrangement of molecules. Within a closed system, entropy will either remain constant or increase. But doesn't that disprove Evolution Theory? No. The Earth is not an isolated system. We are being bathed in free energy from the sun. Life is able to harness this energy to perform its day to day functions, growth, reproduction, evolution etc. Doesn't this mean there is decreasing entropy (randomness)? No. Any increase in order on Earth is more than compensated by an increase in disorder in the structure of the sun. I must emphasis that this is an oversimplification of the processes involved.
     
  5. mmg

    mmg fish out of water

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    hopefully these images i post will help you see you are a fool
     
  6. Pat__

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    Who's studies?

    Your studies? I'm pretty sure people in the actual field don't agree with you on that one
     
  7. jimnuggits

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    Sounds like college boy is dodging the question...
     
  8. coreymichael

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    In conclusion, the world evolves in micro forms constantly. the universe expands and contracts, etc etc. this is only possible with a perfect order in the beginning, therefore a designer is required.
     
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    And you are arrogant enough to believe you can know the mind of a designer of that calibre?
     
  10. mmg

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    nothing is required, nothing is certain
     
  11. coreymichael

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    give me more than 2 seconds to respond. the cavs are exciting and i'm writing up other articles.

    if you're asking me in accordance to the Bible-
    my answer is that Jesus was perfect
    he knew his destiny
    he shared the same desires his Father did
    and therefore made the sacrifice
    He predicted it from the start didnt he?
    According to the Bible he accused Peter and Judas of betrayal before they committed it.
     
  12. zilla939

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    corey, maybe it WAS in fact the ark of a fellow named noah.

    what I don't understand is how THAT is proof that the ruler of all creation commanded this guy to bring two of every species aboard his ship for 40 days and nights while the rest of the earth was completely submerged in water. Any more specific evidence supporting the existence of God?

    not saying I don't believe in God. I'm just saying that the bible is 1) mythological and 2) outdated. society has reached new horizons, but so many well-educated peoples' understanding of science and God are still in the dark age because they refuse to let go of the belief that the bible is the be-all end-all of religion. If we wish to evolve, our scripture must evolve, too.
     
  13. mmg

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    sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy then.
     
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    "Evidence indicates that biological systems and evolution of those systems conform to the second law, since although biological systems may become more ordered, the net change in entropy for the entire universe is still positive as a result of evolution, arguably making the Theory of Evolution itself an expression of the Second Law."
    i can copy and paste from wikipedia too!
     
  15. coreymichael

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    A geologist that is a Christian is still a geologist... doesnt matter what his creed is. This does not discredit him just because you have an opposing agenda.

    The measurements were made and explained on page 4 of the article. Read it again Pat. The wood was examined and it was determined to be 4,500 years old. Which fits in the lineage of Noahs time.
     
  16. zilla939

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    YOU are the designer....
     
  17. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    allow me to share some of my favorite verses from the bible.


    this is a good one about god's people raping young women

    And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. -- Numbers 31:15-18


    and beating your slaves

    And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money -- Exodus 21:20-21
     
  18. mmg

    mmg fish out of water

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    i accept your reality and i substitute it with my own
     
  19. coreymichael

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    The Bible explains the ark specifically by measurement. Coincidence? Sure, maybe.

    Looking around at life, to me, is more evidence of existence of God.
    "All things are extensions of me, the Lord"

    The Bible is updated to new languages and to keep up with the times every generation. It is the most updated book in history, certainly not outdated.
    Scripture DOES evolve, therefore.
     
  20. jimnuggits

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    Christianity is not the only religion that tells of a great flood, indeed, many religions have flood stories. That doesn't mean Christianity is true, or that Jesus was the son of god anymore than I am. Awfully flawed logic for a college boy...
     
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