draft dodging

That's the thing Maverick - the US only intervenes when there is a political agenda (vietnam) or resources (middle east) involved.

Yes, it is awful about 2 million vietnamese losing their lives, but what about the 3 million that have died in the Congo and Uganda over the last 6 years? You make this post about liberation for Iraqi people and act like the US has the great humanitarian agenda, but we don't. If we did, we would have tried to help resolve that conflict.

 

The puppet head of state in South Vietnam, Diem, was an absolute bastard (corrupt nepotist, anti-reform, famously suppressed and persecuted Buddhists) who was widely hated, and there's little redeeming about that regime and subsequent similar shams that made it anything worth fighting for.

 

So if one government is a bit corrupt, instead of rebuilding it to be a free democracy it is better for it to be overrun by an even more corrupt regime? I like your logic here....

 

The South Vietnamese puppet government was much more than "a bit" corrupt. Even our government was privately critical of it, but still backed it. As for the government that took power afterwards, it did become corrupt after it took power, but really the South Vietnamese government that we supported was pretty bad.

I do think Ho Chi Minh was the best leader Vietnam ever had, he's sorta their George Washington. Before turning to the USSR, he had actually looked to the US for aid in his war against the French, but was turned down because of his Communist leanings.

 

So, uh, I guess the UN came and saved the day huh?

 

Actually the UN is involved and has pleaded for US aid, to no avail. Why? Because there is not political agenda, resources of interest or threat to our nation. The genocides that have gone on all over Africa over the past century under different regimes in different countries makes Hussein look like Santa Claus - why have we been so reluctant to go there if we are the so called liberators that you potray us as?

 

Exactly, the UN did nothing. They pleaded with who? The USA. Hmmm, lets see, the UN is failing to do it's job again.
Besides, what if we had gone in? We'd have you hypocrites protesting it.
Funny huh?

 

You would be better comparing him to Stalin, or Hitler. It's funny, whenever a comparison between Ho Chi Minh and George Washington is brought up in public, Vietnamese everywhere outside of Viet Nam start protesting it and denouncing Ho Chi Minh. There are no public protests in Viet Nam itself, because anyone who did say anything aloud against Minh there would suddenly disappear, along with their family.

 

I'm too old (28 going on 29) to get drafted. If there is a draft go join the Coast Guard. Its a legal way to get around the draft and serve and help others. As for CO's they quite often get put in as medics.(at least they used to) As for Ho Chi Minh.... During WWII The Viet Minh worked hand in hand with the OSS(forurnner of the CIA) in fighting the Japanese and the Vichy French in Vietnam. He and his Viet Minh put their lives on the line to help the OSS and helped save downed Allied pilots. Matter of fact an Army Medic saved Ho from an almost fatal infection by giving him penecillin. After all they did to help us the US gov't told him to get lost when he asked for help getting the French out of Vietnam. Its no wonder he and a lot of Vietnamese got pissed of at the US. BTW: Does anyone know the name of the senior ranking officer in charge of the investigation of the My Lai Massacre. He denied it happened and tried to cover it up. Ladies and Gents that mans name is none other than Colin Powell, the ONLY member of ReichFurher ooops I mean Pres Bush's cabinet that was in the military.

 

As for the original question, if I were to be drafted (and be in the United States at the time of the draft), I wouldn't serve. I'd try to find a way to get around it if I could. I don't think there's any chance of a draft happening, but I do wonder what would be the rules for it.

 

Colin Powell was a Cpt.back then.

 

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But seriously, though, I don't care how "good" Ho Chi Minh was, he ended up an evil dictator who oversaw the massecre of innocent villagers. Don't give me all this My Lai crap, they never tell you about the atrocities of the North...

 

In response to the initial post....I dont have to worry about it, I served 4 years and am done. If not, I also have dual citizenship with Canada, so it would be no problem for me to go live up there.

 

I ask who is the hypocrite?

 

Ohh... if you say so. I don't doubt that the Vietcong has its share of nasty atrocities, no side was totally clean atrocity-wise in that war (like just about every other war). Do you have some sources about the later evil dictator Minh's villager killing sprees? The man didn't even live to see the end of the war nor the officially reunified Vietnam.

 

do you know how many people and villiages the us army destoried in the time they were in there? was there one leget reason for the war? is there a legit reason for this one? there arent any wmd's your boy bush even contradicted himself by saying there arent. and also there is no link betweens alquide and saddam, it is a proven fact. but some how bush still thinks there is.

no wmd's, no conection, no reason

 

What kind of pussy are you to dodge the draft?

dc

 

The kind of pussy that would fuck your world up if it came down to it. What, if you're anti war, you're a wimp?

 

Sometimes I think morons just join the forums to purposely sound like asshats. Either that or it's one of the regular forumgoers who created an account just say something like that.

 

most vietnam supported ho chi minh... as far as im concerned the south vietnamese & allies have always been the bad guys.

You act like south vietnamese/american forces never killed innocents.