so were any of you guys actually ready to die when you took it? or you learned that BY taking it? because i'm certainly not ready to die! x87
Before taking it I did not know whether or not I was ready to die, because I had never been confronted with death. Taking it, I realized I was ready, as I thought I was going to literally die, and was at peace, and let go. I can thank years of reading buddhist literature for that, and an acid trip that changed everything for me. That's why I've had nothing but glowing things to say about it, I treated it as it rightfully needs to be treated, the ultimate. Pork from what I know about you you are not ready for DPT. Not that it matters, if it happens it happens, and maybe in that firey baptism you will learn what it means, but as it stands now, your attitude and trepidation and anxiety over unplesantness, show you're not on the level enough yet to undertake that journey. remember how big a deal you made about 100mg ketamine? thats what im talking about. this isn't an intense 2c-e experience or anything like that. its wholly new. DPT is what DMT takes to trip. i miss feeling the birth of the universe in every atom, all the screams ever uttered by any human ever rushing out of your cell membranes. its not fun. it is so high-octane that i struggle to place an emotion on it. terror? thrill? panic? euphoria? all too weak and narrow, dpt is like hacking off the fire hydrant in your head and having a geyser of psychic meaning spurt violently 30 feet into the air inside your skull. if you have issues letting go, giving control up . . . yikes. good luck. i tire of saying the same things over and over about it. do or do not, this is powdered kali.
i've done five ~110mg doses and i wasn't confronted with my death until i bumped it up to 150mg + .. dpt was enjoyable for me at the 100-110mg dose range. however 150+ is a whole different ball game..
yeah there is some variability with people, i have total cosmic meltdown with 80mg, others need 180 . . . or maybe i don't know what i'm talking about and prone is right and i should do 200, maybe all my talks of dpt are only for half way up. wouldn't that be something, wouldn't even surprise me with this one propyl power
i appreciate the honesty, writer. i know you think i make a big deal before i try anything new, but why not ask all the questions i can think of, and learn what i can about it BEFORE doing it? and it was 150 mg ketamine i know you say nothing will prepare you for it, but i'll probably have some experience with DMT before i try DPT. i'm pretty sure i will end up trying DPT though. the anxiety and unpleasantness sounds totally worth it in this case. it seems to be more of a mental unpleasantness than a body load. and again, i know DPT's intensity is on a whole 'nother level than acid or 2ce, but i have no problem letting go on them. i've never thought i was DYING though. i think DPT could be the answer to the lack of intensity i find in my trips as of late. i'm sure it will have me with my metaphorical tail between my legs as well
maybe i'm just too literal with that phrase, or you aren't being literal enough, but i've never thought i was actually dying on acid. it's felt like my body was disintegrating and my consciousness was drifting away and existing at many points at once, but i never forgot i took acid or thought that i was gonna die. call me crazy, but i take dying pretty fuckin seriously
I think acid is the only drug that's actually made me feel like I was dying. Ketamine knocks me out, salvia just puts me completely somewhere else where death is not a concept, and Dmt thus far like makes me feel like I vibrate or something but it doesn't seem like death imo, although 5 Meo was kind of a flash. All of them can provide ego dissolution tho.
It's a good thing for you that the feeling of dying only happens the first few times.. then you realize that you're not actually dying and that everything is gonna be fine
after reading all these posts about DPT, from guys that i "know" and trust...hopefully i can get to that stage only after one time or so can you elaborate on how you felt? what was the dosage?
2nd time, 3 hits , 15 mins from San francisco. I don't know if the San francisco part is pertinent but I know there is chemists there possibly less degradation? I dunno. Ive only done up to 6 hits but the 3 hits was quite a bit more potent maybe its because it was still new. Probably just doses alot higher tho. It was at about hour 8 at my friends house and they all went to sleep so i was in the pitch black. Felt fatigued from earlier and started feeling anxious and like tense/nervous. Started having flashbacks to childhood and was the first time I really got the tunneling phenomena on LSD which I was interpretting as like a relgious go into the light type thing. I kept fighting the experience to so I think that made it bumpier and scarier, and I was like holding on hard to the blankets and pillow.
are you being sarcastic, sir? maybe my wimpy little ego takes it as an insult that i'm not ready for DPT. i guess taking DPT will take care of that ego
You are a strange cat sometimes sir, you know your Shiz and seem pretty chill but I don't get how you go from deciding he's not ready , to ready for dpt in the span of less than 24 hrs. And a few posts, unless like pork mentioned that was sarcasm.
Why do you think he couldn't go from not being ready to ready within 24 hours?? Sarcasm or not, I'm missing your point. I think pork needs to just smoke that fucking DMT already, seriously though....what's the hold up man? The only real way to ever be ready for something like DPT is by realizing it's going to be beyond anything you've done before, and to just let go of everything. It's hard to lose the anxiety and fear of that intensity when you read about it day after day without ever trying the substance yourself.
nope I didn't think he was ready, and then I read the post I quoted from him and changed my mind. He displayed an open, balanced, patient, mature outlook on the situation. Nothing more is required or could be asked. He sounds prepared to get his hands dirty, even if he doesn't yet know just what that entails. Anyways it's just one man's opinion, and I've been wrong as much as I've been right. Not that it matters with this, no preparation possible. A wholly novel experience that can only be approached within it, in the moment, as it organically unfolds. Not something to dissect and analyze from a distance, slowly easing oneself into the DPT waters inch by inch mentally. The body will be plunged and drowned, limbs thrashing and heart exploding, and only in the center of the maelstrom can there be a chance for grace.
i haven't got a pipe for it yet. i could use my bong i suppose. i also have other things to do besides trip
Start with 200mg. Everyone is ready, for under neath, we are all the same. I am no differant than you when it comes to the DPT realm. I spent lots of time there, with many people. Aint no "ready or not"