Don't The Americans Seem To You Sometimes Like

Discussion in 'Europe' started by JanaXGIRL, Aug 4, 2005.

  1. Megara

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    did america and their jewish buddies kill Jesus too? [​IMG]
     
  2. Raving Sultan

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    americans have bigger cocks, stop being jealous
     
  3. Megara

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    you really arent helping...
     
  4. makno

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    your a goddamm fool ....why dont you go look up some newspapers from the 19 20s n 30s ....its not my opinion that hoover armed hitler ....its not my opinion that f d r armed stalin ....its fact .
     
  5. wolf_at_door

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    You helped USSR just as much as elephants fly. Did Hollywood also make a movie about how Steven Seagal rescued Stalingrad?

    I can't agree with your conclusion as long you're basing your analysis on american history books for 8 year olds...

    "Bring an end to the USSR"? Again - that's your history. That's probably not what soviet 8 years old learned in history. Are your 8 year olds fed with objective knowledge?
     
  6. lakshen

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    I'm not demeaning your family, they were soldiers... I have all respect for those who fight, I'm just saying that you shouldn't sit over there and play heroes, you didn't feel the war on your own country, yeah okay, you lost a harbour :eek:

    Sorry to say this, but the only reason your government went to war was because, god forbid, they were attacked themselves, don't think they really cared about us up untill that moment... So don't feel insulted unless your family were in the government...

    Oh and just so you know, it's a well known fact that Hitler was stupid... And had he been a bit more normal he could've won, no doubt in my mind... Even over america, who largely won on their numbers
     
  7. Megara

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    we armed hitler in the 1920s? you might want to check when he came to power :)

    Yes, America and American corporations did business with the Nazis. As did most nations. To somehow insinuate that we played a part or wanted hitler in any way to conquer europe is absurd.
     
  8. makno

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    you realy are a fool .....dont bother to check anything out cause you were born with all the answers .....
     
  9. Megara

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    Did i not say other countries fought side by side with America?

    Yes, we were very slow to enter the war and the attack on pearl harbor gave us pretext to fight the war. Until Nazi Germany declared war on us, there was really no reason for us to enter the war. It was a european fight. One caused by europeans and should have been dealt with by europeans. If Europeans listened to us after WWI, we probably wouldn't have had WWII. But that is history as they say.

    England didnt fight against Hitler until they felt directly threatened(their ally was attacked). They stood back and watched Austria, Czechloslovakia(sp?) go down and were very happy to appease the Nazis.

    So please dont make it sound like Noble Europeans fought the good fight while Americans didnt.

    I really doubt they could have won the war. The US economy was multiple times larger than Japan and Germany combined. The US with its resources + the USSR and britain was pretty much an unstoppable combination. Our vast resources allowed us to take risks and to take heavily fortified positions by amphibious attacks(Normandy) that the Nazis should have been able to easily defend. The Nazis were out-fought, out-manned, and out-thought.

    Remember, the US military was heavily divided between the European and Pacific Theater. The Nazis never felt the wrath of a united America and they lost pretty handily.
     
  10. makno

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    the we you place in events that you had no part in and that occurred before your birth speaks loads
     
  11. Megara

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    huh? english please.

    Also, i dont know about Europe(maybe the nazis burned them all) but we have things called "Books." These books allow us to gather information about "History." Knowledge of "history" allows me to talk about "history." If you had knowledge of "History" you'd know that the Nazis weren't in power in the 1920s..so the US couldn't have been trading with them then.
     
  12. lakshen

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    yeah you did say that, but you still glorify america

    And should've been dealt with by europeans my ass, have you any sort of idea how brilliant tactics were used by germans and how efficiently they fought in the beginning of the war?
    Well that was because they had a weak/diplomatic leader at that time, when he left it to churchill he took action...

    oh and yeah they could, no doubt about it... Had Hitler not killed his best generals and had he for fucks sake listend to them, I mean the man was a sergant... The title you give to people that absolutly doesn't qualify for anything else...

    He could've take USSR and England fast if he'd just been smarter, he had a superiour air force, ground force and such, but he just wasn't smart enough, and waaaaay too paranoid... He could've won!

    Oh and, you might want to rethink that "out thought" one, they had faar better tanks then you had, enfact smerman vs. tiger was seen as succesfull if only 3 smermans were shot to take out one tiger...

    And after the war the german scientists were fought over by USSR and USA, it was german V3 technology that sent your guys to the moon and so sooo many other things you don't even know...

    The Germans had some of the smartest scientist...
     
  13. lakshen

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    feb 24 1920 the nazi party was formed
     
  14. Megara

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    1928: the Nazi party won 2.8% of the Reichstag elections.
    1930: 18.3%(Second largest party).
    1933: Nazi Party Takes control. Nazi's suspend civil liberties. Nazi's Control the country.


    Try again.
     
  15. lakshen

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    haha, that's lame :D Try again is a stupid line when you're wrong

    feb 24 1920 was the first official meeting of NSDAP

    Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

    then hitler went to prison, and 1925 the party was reformed...

    hello I know my history... I said formed, not came to power... And I don't need some stupid internet site to confirm this, cause I know it's true
     
  16. Megara

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    I am proud of what we did in WWII. Does england not gloriy itself in WWII?

    What does one have to do with the other? The nazi Generals were excellent generals, and were arguably the best of the lot.
    Excuses...

    I dont really care for "what if" history. The fact of the matter is they failed. Every country can play "what if." Would hitler have been as successful if the British, French, Russians, and yes, the Americans didnt appease him? No, he would have been checked before his rise to extreme power. So excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to manipulate only what germany could have done in order to win the war.

    What does out-thought have to do with better tanks? I'm thinking of things like making the germans believe Patton was going to lead the liberation of Europe also that the invasion would come from norway/denmark. Look up operation bodyguard and operation skye.

    Yep, they did. And they became good Americans ;)
     
  17. Megara

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    The Nazi's didnt control the government until 1933, how did we trade with the nazi's and adolf hitler in 1920? Please, do tell me.
     
  18. lakshen

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    They felt the war on their own body, they didn't just sit in safety and then move in for the finishing blow, cause believe it or nor... Germany was already dying when USA moved in...

    that has everything to do with it, they started by taking our armies out when they were still really strong... So that's why... Freedom fighters were civilians

    truth...

    well I said they could've won, that requires a what if question, so I don't see what you're on about?

    I can't answer how they could've won by telling you what happend...

    But yeah, they could've just taken their panzer divisions to the seaside and shot down the ships...

    but yeah, I know what that was... That was smart tho I must admit, haha... And vital too

    they did wonders for modern science and medical thingie yeah, but they were still Germans :p
     
  19. lakshen

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    haha, that wasn't my claim :p I just said they were formed at that time...

    You can trade with them even if they're not at power tho
     
  20. Megara

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    So now you are demeaning US involvement in the war. What a shitty thing to do.

    Uh. Germany was already dying? the english were chasing hitler around africa and germany was making deep inroads into the USSR/caucus areas. Germany was dying? Germany was at its greatest extent towards the end of 1942.

    this makes no sense

    They had a shitty leader, they bowed down to Germany to appease them. I'm Sorry, that doesn't excuse england because they had a bad leader..he was THEIR LEADER!

    It's a wate of time. But again, you are manipulating only what Germany could have done to win the war. When you allow only nation to change what they did, of course they'd win the war!


    Nope, von braun(and others) were americans ;)
     

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