I believe HBWR is by far better than MG. You only need 4-8 seeds for a good dose. Less nausea. You can chop them a little and swallow with water, without using a coffee grinder
I spoke too soon about the visuals, the colors have been shifting. Had a fun bike ride then came and laid down, fell asleep, had a nightmare, (don't know what about) then just laid there all spaced for a while. then suddenly had a huge urge to take off all my clothes and before i knew it i had this orgasm like......i don't know what it was like except it was really spiritual. It's so weird. I feel like a different person now. I like it. I feel like something really profound just happenned to me but i don't know what it is.
This extract is definitely the way to go. It really isn't that much more expense or effort and the result is way way better. I was lucky in having a gold mesh coffee filter that works a lot faster than paper. I'd definitely let the powder dry out completely after the naptha wash-- i let it dry for two days. When it was all bone dry and i couldn't smell any solvent , then i went ahead and put it in the vodka. It all took about a week, but so worth it! This really is a nice buzz! And, just from my experience, this seems to be a VERY sex friendly drug.
You need a coffee grinder, some filters, (paper,or better yet gold mesh filter-faster) a couple jars and some VM&P Naptha (it's a solvent you can get in the paint dept at the hardware store) 5 or 6 bucks, and some alcohol..highest proof you can get. I made do with 100 proof vodka. Grind up the seeds...in the grinder, pour the powder into a jar with about 3 parts naptha to one part seed powder, shake it up let it sit for about twenty minutes. Set up the other jar with the filter in it and after twenty, shake up the mix again and pour it into the other jar through the filter. You can reuse the naptha, and repeat the above steps if you have more seeds to process. Then, after all the seed powder has had a good naptha bath, it needs a good well ventilated place to dry out for a couple days. You definitely want it completely dry, so you don't end up drinking solvent. Then when the powder is bone dry and you can't smell any solvent smell, put it in with the alcohol. I put about a thousand seeds into a half pint of 100 proof vodka and got a pretty good trip from drinking half of that. Leave it in for three days before you drink it. The liturature all this is from on Erowid gave the impression that the extract works almost immediately, but that wasn't my experience. It was faster than eating them, but I would recommend taking a shot and waiting ten minutes or so and just repeat till complete. I drank the other half today, but it seems the tollerance factor has kicked in. I've only got half as stoned as yesterday, even though I drank just as much. Should have waited. Oh, well. Next time i'll know.
Man, is there ANYTHING I can replace booze with? I get weird about hard alcohol cuz I tend to get shit faced. If I drank it I would be turned off the whole time.
Hmmm. You might just want to get a high seed powder to alcahol ratio like i did so you don't have to drink more than two or three shots. Then again if two or three shots is too much alcahol, which it might be--i know i got fairly buzzed just on the vodka, you might just use cold water, but i think there might be more of a nausea factor that way. You know though, now that i think of it, it seems like the mg when it kicked in kind of counteracted the numbing, effects of the alcahol and i'm about 167 lbs with fairly low alcohol tolerance. Maybe someone knows a way to do it just as well without alcahol, but i don't.
All im taking from that post is that you have 167 pounds in ya and cant drink alot. I weigh 230 pounds and have the alcohol tolerance of a viking. So naturally if I have 2 or 3 drinks I'm not drunk and ALWAYS decide to have a few more and end up with friends taking the glass away from me saying go to bed. Can I put beer in it??? If I can Ill chug it! Coors Light with a trip attached sounds way chill.
I'm sure you could, or take a shot w beer chaser. I sipped it slow last time, but next time im chugging 'cause i really don't like vodka....so the beer chaser idea sounds good to me..wash down the icky vodka.