Donald Trump

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The government created al-Qaeda, which became ISIS. It goes back much further than Obama, to the Carter and Reagan administrations. Obama and crew continued to provided aid to these terrorists, though. But no, Obama did not create ISIS. Obama is just a puppet like all president are.
     
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  3. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    No. She has a history of habitually lying as shown with her emails.
     
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  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But her apologists (like Meagain) will say that because the FBI investigation claimed she didn't act with nefarious intent, even though the evidence clearly shows that she did lie, that we should trust her.

    Like I have said before, Trump might be an asshole and say a lot of stupid shit, but he doesn't have a fraction of the dirt on him that Clinton has on her. This is why it amazes me that people think Trump is so bad, yet they turn a blind eye to Clinton's legacy of corruption and criminality.

    Things are screwed regardless of who wins in November.
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Of course if the evidence did in fact prove that she did indeed lie to the FBI it would be a Federal crime.

    You obviously don't understand what intent is. You can't lie unless you intend to lie. You can not tell the truth, but if you believe it is the truth you are not lying, you are making a false statement that you believe to be true. No lie there. I can explain this in detail if you like.

    Funny isn't it that no charges were brought. I guess the Illuminati stepped in to help her out.

    Show me the evidence, not innuendos, no hearsay, trumped up charges, and all the other bull shit I keep seeing. Facts. Facts are what I'll listen to.
     
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  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It would be a Federal crime for everyone who is not Hillary Clinton. Obviously the FBI is as corrupt as she is and therefore covered her ass. The fact the she was not found guilty by the FBI does not mean shit in light of the facts that prove she lied about the e-mails. You are an apologist for Hillary Clinton, so arguing with you is a waste of my time.
     
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  11. tumbling.dice

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    tumbling.dice, Aug 12, 2016
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  13. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Black men are superpredators
     
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Did you watch the Comey hearings? I did, all 4 1/2 hours.

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    Let me know when you have viewed the entire video or read the entire transcript, then we can have an intelligent conversation.
    Unless, of course you believe that the entire U.S. government is corrupt. In that case there is no use to talking to you as nothing anyone can say will ever change your mind.
     
    MeAgain, Aug 13, 2016
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  17. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    you can argue on if trickle down economics works.

    but i have seen it is a fact that trickle down backroom deals work.
     
    pensfan13, Aug 13, 2016
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  19. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you find one quote.....but of course you haven't quoted it correctly.

    Here is the quote:
    This quote was made during a 1996 speech in which she was responding to the fact that large numbers of black men have been incarcerated. She was referring to gangs of kids, not all black men.

    The term super-predators refers to a theory by John Dilulio, a political scientist. His theory was that there are troubled children who hold no remorse and will resort to impulsive violence without any intelligent motive.
    He did not say that only blacks are super-predators and neither did Hillary Clinton.
     
    MeAgain, Aug 13, 2016
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  21. Flagme15

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    The Mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan became Al Qaeda. The U.S. Supplied arms to Al Qaeda to fight the Soviets.
    Once again though, the U.S. government got it wrong.
    The bottom line is this, the American government's support for both Israel, and corrupt Arab dictators is the basis for the continued turmoil in the M E.
     
    Flagme15, Aug 13, 2016
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  23. guerillabedlam

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    Yah it's pretty ridiculous, I find a kind of bittersweet aspect to all this. Hillary is clearly more qualified to be POTUS but it comes at the expense of the presidential fraternity. This also is coming on the heels of 8 years of the first African American President, so I assume a lot of American 'traditionalists' don't know how to express themselves civilly and perhaps see a lot of the "we're losing the country" type sentiments that I seem to recall being expressed back in the late 90's kind of coming to fruition in many ways.

    I guess Trump has a way to rally up their anger, frustrations, and uhh.. yah racism.
     
    guerillabedlam, Aug 13, 2016
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  25. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Ok, let's see you spin this one: Hillary advocates "physical barriers" on Mexican border

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WXLmmYRjDKw
     
    6-eyed shaman, Aug 13, 2016
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  27. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No spin necessary, all I need do is present a few facts.

    Here is the entire speech.

    So she wants physical barriers, if necessary, IN SOME PLACES. So what.

    I recently went to Niagara Falls and guess what? We have physical barriers in some places on the Canadian border!!!

    In fact it cost me a quarter (U.S.) to walk through the turnstile to get back across the Rainbow Bridge and into the U.S.! They had border guards, fences, barbed wire, and walls! I had to pass through customs, I was interrogated, my little bag of maple candy was looked at, my passport was checked (my wife had to take off her hat), and it still cost me a quarter!

    Here's a picture of the physical barrier into the U.S. from Canada, in reverse, if you are walking.

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    Of course we don't have a wall extending the entire 3,987 miles of the U.S. Canadian border (excluding Alaska). And Hillary is not suggesting one.

    Likewise we have physical barriers on the U.S. Mexican border, but no wall extending the entire 1,933 miles of that border. And Hillary is not suggesting one.

    But Donald is.
     
    MeAgain, Aug 13, 2016
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  29. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    well congrats, you did a superb job at avoiding the facts. canadians have pretty good jobs generally speaking so that is not the issue.
    it was as we all know the fact that mexicans are diluting the american work force and therefore the wages for certain jobs.
    this is the part where i put myself out there...where did trump say he was putting the wall? even though i do remember him saying he would have a door..........

    come on we all know the fucking wall is a joke, these fucking mexicans are garden workers...like they cant dig a fucking tunnel.
    this is all a distraction from the real facts, but i will let you all back to your previous back and forth that goes nowhere.
     
    pensfan13, Aug 13, 2016
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  31. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    What facts did I avoid?

    Hillary Clinton never said she wants a wall across the entire Mexican border, Trump wants a wall 1,000 miles long as he claims natural physical barriers will take care of the other (933 +/-) miles.

    Hillary Clinton said we should have physical barriers, if necessary in certain places, physical barriers can be walls, fences, ditches, moats, rivers, turnstiles, etc. we have those already in certain places on both borders.

    I was asked to comment on the fact that Hillary Clinton said we should have physical barriers, if necessary in certain places, not anything about jobs here, in Mexico, or Canada.

    So what facts did I avoid?
     
    MeAgain, Aug 13, 2016
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  33. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Border control is racist. We need to let everyone into the country with no questions asked. Not only that, but we need to provide food, clothing and shelter for them as well. I am so sick of racist people who live from paycheck to paycheck complaining about paying for people that are here illegally. Just learn to not eat some days,
     
    Pressed_Rat, Aug 14, 2016
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  35. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Personally, I think Trump's wall proposal is moronic and would never happen. All the government needs to do is enforce the borders, but they don't and they won't because it's antithetical to the agenda to bring the country down. Trump doesn't talk about how the government actually busses people into the country from the borders.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/06/30/thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-bused-across-us/

    It's all part of the plan to destroy the country and bankrupt it. The people who run this country and pull the strings of puppets like Obama want people flooding into the country, 99% of who will vote Democrat. This is why Trump will not win, and if he does he will not fulfill a single one of his promises.
     
    Pressed_Rat, Aug 14, 2016
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  37. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    I'm assuming sarcasm. Right?
     
    Maccabee, Aug 14, 2016
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  39. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    They tuckurr jobs!
     
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