Donald Trump

Her best defense is that she isn't Donald fucking Trump.

 

For profit schools all generally operate using the same business model - high pressure sales tactics, misleading statistics concerning job placement, overpriced tuition etc.

I did a quick Google search earlier and it looks like there have been no official charges but I did find a forum thread where a recent enrollee was asking if Laureate was a scam and from the responses, it seems to be a typical for profit school. Professors are pressured into becoming salesmen rather than teachers, a couple of people said the school would automatically enroll them in classes they didn't sign up for, refuse to refund them and then turn them over to the credit bureau for non payment.receiving multiple, borderline harrassing phone calls from a high pressure salesperson giving a hard sale after filling out an online form seems to be a common complaint too.

Also interestingly enough during my Google search I came across a blurb that mentioned Hillary has spoken out against for profit colleges, yet the Clinton's have made more money than I'll ever see in my lifetime from one.

She's not Donald Trump but they both seem equally insincere to me.

 

Admittedly I worry that if Donald Trump is president I'll be beaten up by roaming street thugs.

 

i'm still struggling to see where this differentiates them from not for profit schools...

 

Both also sometimes lure people in with celebrity professors who are rarely seen on campus. Locally, Wake Forest U is known for this.

 

A constant problem in this campaign. Trump's supporters don't care what he's done wrong. They treat him like a family member, even though there's no way in hell he would give any of us the time of day. The logic they seem to follow is that other candidates are flawed, therefore Trump is the only option. Why does he get absolute loyalty from people who have never met him? I don't get it. It's more than a little bit sick.

 

lol

The same can be said for Hillary Clinton's supporters, or anyone who gets behind any political figure for that matter.

I am not sure how people groveling to Trump is any less disgusting than the people who grovel to Hillary Clinton or Obama and defend all their bullshit.

 

I don't know any such person.

 

I think it's a combination of his followers being less educated, and listening to right wing radio.


The thing I don't get is that these people think that once trump is elected, things will turn around overnight(for them).
Trump says he is bringing jobs back to America. We shall see, but my point is that even if jobs returned, one still has to qualify for it.
Trump's supporters complain about entitlement programs, unless they're the beneficiary.

 

I shifted the conversation to the Clintons because I cannot stand hypocrisy. But this is the wrong thread for it I suppose. I touched on it in another, more appropriate thread and no one seemed bothered by it

 

Marketing and the fact that for profit schools generally offer the same degrees you can get at a 2 year community college but for about $20 k more.

Other than that, not much difference.

 

Not all wrongs are on equal footing. We need to look at each case individually; Trump is objectively the worst choice.

 

No one specifically, just in general I find it hypocritical to be bothered by Trump U but not by the Clinton's ties to a for profit school.

 

A constant problem in this campaign. Hillary's supporters don't care what she's done wrong. They treat her like a family member, even though there's no way in hell she would give any of us the time of day. The logic they seem to follow is that other candidates are flawed, therefore Hillary is the only option. Why does she get absolute loyalty from people who have never met her? I don't get it. It's more than a little bit sick.

Sorry Karen J had to do it!

Also, I don't see Trump's University to be on equal footing with being careless with government secrets at all. To me, it's a LOT LESS significant.

What did Trump do at worst? Set up the shittiest excuse for a university in the history of he world? I'm sorry, but you're an idiot if you thought going to Trump University was going to get you somewhere. I'm supposed to believe that is so much worse than exposing state secrets to foreign governments? No way!

Hillary was reckless with the rules and regulations that protect the citizens of this country from foreign harm. Suing Donald Trump for starting a shitty college is like suing Gilbert Gottfried for writing a shitty cookbook.

 

Well, generally speaking for profit schools are in business because they encourage people through high pressure sales tactics, who are generally lower income, to take out massive student loans for degrees in low paying fields. And loans for for profit education makes up a disproportionate percentage of all US student loan debt.

This isn't the thread to get too into detail about it, do some research.

Back on topic, hopefully Trump will be found guilty

 

Meliai, I started this thread and I'm telling you and everyone else this is NOT the wrong thread for ripping on the Clintons. I plan to vote for her considering the alternative but that doesn't make me a Hillary supporter!

Feel free to tear her a new one, I'm okay with it, although comparing her to Hitler is beyond absurd. And I still refuse to discuss it further.

 

I'm sorry I compared Hillary to Hitler. It was meant as a joke, to add some levity to the discussion. Not as a troll post.

That said, Hillary is a warhawk and her foreign policy has been a disaster. How many innocent people must die as a result of US foreign policy before such comparisons are made? I'm honestly not understanding the logic of how the Iraq War, for instance, wasn't a total holocaust.