Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Aug 21, 2015.

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  1. My high hopes haven't been dashed, but then again I'm not buying the MSM's narrative. Investigations are ongoing into voter fraud. 125.000 voters were purged in Brooklyn alone. In Chicago an audit has also revealed voter fraud.

    You can't make this a Trump vs. Hillary narrative. It's gone beyond some "old hat" presidential election. I'm with Bernie until a contested convention at least, and if he loses perhaps he'll run as an independent. The thing is that if we're going by the numbers, he shouldn't lose. He has the best chance against all the Republican candidates.

    If it's Hillary vs. Trump I think it's safe to say that it's officially a fraudulent, invalid election. I think many Americans deserve the right to place a vote of no confidence in their president. Hillary will never be my president. They can inaugurate her, set her up in the Oval Office, fly her around in Air Force One, whatever...it's just bullshit. She will never be the president.
     
  2. Asmodean

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    It's not fraudulent when they're following the rules and regulations, how dubious those may be. If you're talking about superdelegates and/or voters being excluded for having to be registered to a particular party or not?
     
  3. TheSamantha

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    It's the left that celebrates diversity, but only of demographics. The right requests diversity of opinions, not looks.
     
  4. Meliai

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    Thats odd. All the right leaning people i know hold the exact same opinions.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    So that they can speak out against them? :p
     
  6. GeorgeJetStoned

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    It's during presidential elections that we see just how convoluted having 50 (or so) different election and voting methods can be. I guess it could be worse, Switzerland has 8 presidents!
     
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  8. WOLF ANGEL

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    - VIEW FROM A BRIT

    Trump wants to build walls, Not break barriers (so much for educational awareness)
    Trump advocates Greed, Not provide Need ("Money, Money, Money, Money, - (Money"))
    Trump believes the picture / image overrides the story / content of (comments re Rosie O'Donnell)
    Trump thinks bombing Isis is the answer (didn't work out too well in Vietnam Donny!)
    Trump v Putin = Scary
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    When choosing to(or not) Vote - consideration of the end game should always be considered - lest the resulting consequence be something to hard to bear - Good luck U.S.A.
     
  9. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    I do find these comments quite worrying
    You cannot, kill an ideal - only kill the innocent and give rise to a vengeful response - for those who will believe they have nothing to lose - and as I said in my previous post - "did not work in South East Asia"
    As for the second part - anyone with such radical views "nobody's bitch!" and thinking "he is smart enough to dig himself out of" smacks of someone with megalomaniac tendencies - as I understand it - any Government official is there to served and not be served by the people
    "Be afraid, Be very afraid"
     
  10. GeorgeJetStoned

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    People build walls all over the planet. The barrier between India and Pakistan can be seen from orbit. They didn't build it because the Pakistanis were jumping across the border and attacking the wealthy. It was built to protect the general population at a fundamental level from random invasion and attacks. What I don't get is how this has become a race issue with the US/Mexican border. Except that race is an excellent diversion these days. Even asking someone where they are from is considered racist these days. When does it stop? Do people REALLY think Trump is a racist/white supremacist/Hitler? Only the morons, the rest are pushing this narrative because it makes them feel morally superior. It's pure narcissism on parade.

    From what I have seen assholes come in all shades, colors and ethnicities. Pushing a bullshit narrative just to satisfy sophomoric political aims is just plain sad. What I like about Trump and Bernie is the way the establishment hate them both. The way they hated Obama. Sure they wanted to be able to say they were part of "making history" and did everything to get Obama into the white house. But after that they shut him out both republicans AND democrats. The ACA was shoved through and only passed on bribes (like that fat one to Landrieu) and backroom dealings. Right idea, piss poor execution.

    See, for the most part establishment politics doesn't want much to change. So turning Americans against each other keeps things stagnant and controllable. I know it may sound insane, but if Bernie doesn't beat Hillary, democrats SHOULD align with Trump. I know, I know, sheer heresy of the highest order. It means having to look at the REAL issues and how long we have suffered with them. The War on Drugs is a PRIME example since BOTH parties have kept it going for decades. Wake up now, or be rudely awakened up later.
     
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  11. Moonglow181

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    Nope....I will not get behind Trump ...talk about narcissism....or Hillary for that matter. I won't vote anymore if it is those two, as i will not give a shit anymore...You really think the bull shit is going to stop on a huge level such as national.....and world wide?.....when it won't even stop in the small puddles of humanity.....?

    Not in this millenium.
     
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  12. tumbling.dice

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    I'm voting for Gary Johnson as a protest vote. I live in Kentucky, which will get behind whoever the Republican candidate is anyway, so it's not like my vote actually counts for anything. I'm curious to see if the third parties get more votes than they usually do during a typical election.


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  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Yes, this moron does. He's not as bad as Cruz and I wouldn't go as far as calling him Hitler yet, but he is a racist.

    It's called politics. Always been that way.

    Sorry I don't support torture, the murder of the innocent family members of terrorists, defunding planned parenthood, eliminating the EPA and Department of Education, same state marriages decided by individual states, and using bankruptcy laws for personal gain. I don't support charter schools and vouchers, I don't believe "Green energy is just an expensive feel-good for tree-huggers", and I don't believe climate change is a hoax. Mexico isn't going to pay for a wall, the Supreme Court nomination should be addressed now, we need to revise our gun control laws, and Health Savings accounts are the stupidest idea since the Edsel.
    I don't believe in banning people from entering the U.S. based on their religion, there is no way to ship back millions of Mexicans even if we wanted to, and the minimum wage needs to be increased.
    His tax plan would "boost the after-tax incomes of the wealthiest households by an average of more than $1.3 million a year" and significantly lower taxes for the wealthy.[19][21] A Citizens for Tax Justice analysis found that under Trump's plan, the poorest 20% of Americans would see a tax cut averaging $250, middle-income Americans would see an tax cut averaging just over $2,500, and the best-off 1% of Americans would see a tax cut averaging over $227,000.[20]

    And so on...why would I vote for this idiot instead of Bernie or Hillary??????
     
  14. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I am curious, on what basis do you label the man a racist? Is there a smoking gun? Or just a general "feeling"? I also find it trite how racism is thrown up so readily these days as the cause of just about everything from the color of bandages to the width of airline seats. But I am curious where Trump earned the racist label. Or is it just because he's old, and white? That being the case I guess I'm supposed to be a racist too. Sure, assuming I'm a racist just because I'm old and white is itself racism and doesn't usually require a shred of actual proof, it's still very rude if nothing else. I often miss the 70s. We all seemed to get along so much better back then.
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Feel the Johnson
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I'm also old (65) and white.

    Trump clearly doesn't like Hispanics and while the term Hispanic doesn't specifically refer to race he does want to build a wall to keep them out of the U.S. and has called them drug traffickers and rapists, he tried to prove Obama (a black president) had a fraudulent birth certificate, when it was reported in February that David Duke and The American National Super PAC, among other racist groups was supporting him, Trump refused to disavow them until pressed. The Trump Management Company was sued twice by the Justice Department for refusing to rent to blacks, it quoted them different rental terms and conditions, and lied to them about apartments being available.
    He said the Mashantucket Pequot Nation members don't look like Indians to him and accused them of being infiltrated by the Mafia.
    When Trump supporters attacked an African American Black Lives Matters protester knocking him to the ground and then continued to kick him Trump said he should have been roughed up.
    When two men attacked a homeless Latino man in Boston and said they did it because of Trump's anti immigration message he called the men passionate.
    He thinks the Chinese (*Asian race) invented the concept of global warming to harm the U.S. economically and called them MFs. He wants those "short guys" with yamakas to protect his money, and he has publicly mocked Asians' speach.

    But in his defense it may simply be hereditary as his father earned a song from Woodie Guthrie with the lyrics, “I suppose / Old Man Trump knows / Just how much / Racial hate / He stirred up / In the bloodpot of human hearts.”
     
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  17. TheSamantha

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    Wanting to have borders means you hate Hispanics? What does it mean that Mexicans keep Guatemalans out of their country? They just happen to be a different race than the US majority. It would be the same problem if Canadians were crossing the US border illegally. Why are you more concerned with words than lawbreaking?

    He did not call Hispanics rapists. I remember what he said. He said *some* of the *illegal* *Mexicans* are rapists. Did you know they rape illegal women and girls crossing the border the majority of the time? And that he said that to protect them?

    Chinese = people from China btw. Maybe he was referring to them? If he said the French invented it would that have actually meant whites?

    David Duke was a (nonviolent) member of the KKK for two years...over 40 years ago. So was Senator Byrd. You can find pictures of Byrd hugging Obama. Why is Duke still linked to the clan when he's now a congressman but not Byrd? Just guess.
     
  18. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I don't see racial hatred in his message. Trump doesn't want hoards of illegal Swedes flooding across the border either. It was not Americans of any color who made all those Rape Trees at the border. I've been hearing about the Mexican border most of my life, so I don't even bother with trying to assign blame after all this time. Both parties can share in it. But like India with Pakistan, ultimately the safety of Americans is MORE important than willfully allowing a passive invasion by hoards of dependent peasants and violent cartel gang members. The Mexican border is a line of corruption. Closing it will save more lives than opening it up. But I suppose just thinking about preserving the US makes me a racist. After all, America "deserves" to just die off. Right?
     
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  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Liberals are really disgusting how they have to inject race into everything. We have starving people in this country, so let's bring more people into the country to suck off the system which is already broke. Amazing. It has nothing to do with race, but common fucking sense. Also, how the fuck do you think Americans would be treated if they entered Mexico illegally?

    With that said, I do not think Trump is racist, though he does subtly inject racially-charged rhetoric into the blather he spews. It still does not change the fact that illegal immigration is a pretty huge problem. Liberals try to skirt around the issue by crying racism whenever anyone tries to bring up these relevant issues in an attempt to shut people up. It amounts to nothing more than playing dirty.

    There is nobody more responsible for creating racial tension than liberals.

    I am no fan of Donald Trump, but let's just admit that people like Hillary Clinton would not have a leg to stand on if she didn't pander to minorities, pretending she gives a shit about them.
     
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  20. Flagme15

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    Well, he doesn't want to build a wall on the Canadian border. Those people take American jobs, and commit rape, as well.
     
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