Donald Trump

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  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    A 2002 survey of immigrates reported that 23% worked as professionals or in managerial positions, 21% in technical, sales, and administrative support, 21% in service occupations, and 18% working as operators and fabricators. That's 83%.
     
  2. Meliai

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    Is this pertaining only to legal immigration?

    Im assuming it is easier to emigrate to america, and anywhere else, legally with a highly in demand skill and education. Which is why low skilled workers come here illegally - it could take them a decade or more to come legally but theyre usually the most desperate to get out of their current situation.
     
  3. skip

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    Have you seen this? ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-CjAsAHlGs
     
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  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I don't know.
     
  5. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    This clearly refers to legal immigrants because it is very difficult for illegal immigrants to land these kind of jobs. They are able to get service occupations and so forth, especially in smaller companies. and situations where the manager of the establishment is doing the hiring and too busy or to desperate for help to check on immigration status. But an HR department will demand a copy of their alien registration, Social Security Number and other pertinent data before they are hired.

    Legal immigration into the US is a very difficult, expensive and even degrading process. It begins with a $1,000 non-refundable application fee. And that is only the beginning. Even if you are approved, depending on the status you are applying for, it could be many years before you will get to set foot in the US. If you are trying to join loved ones in the US, after applying for immigration you cannot get a tourist visa to visit in the meantime---because you can only have one application at a time open. Your loved ones can all easily die of natural causes before your number comes up.

    There are a lot of potential hurdles----they could mistake you for a communist or a known terrorist if you have the same names. Women always run the risk of being confused with prostitutes. Your fingerprints are taken and sent to the FBI, Interpol and other international police and intelligence organizations and if they get lost, or are smudged, it can take them years to discover the mistake----despite repeated pleas to the embassy.

    The embassy will run a health clinic for the sole purpose of screening out immigrants that are HIV+ or suffering from other diseases such as TB. This is the most degrading part of the the process as the applicants are checked for parasites---anally----and the women are checked for signs of prostitution and VD, and so forth. Everybody that has gone through the screening process and health check are then sent to a waiting room with 4 windows. When they call your name, you are told to report to one of the windows----windows 1 and 2 are for people who have passed the screening, window 4 is for people who are HIV+, Window 3 is for other illnesses. Imagine the people being called to window 4-----in front of everyone, who all know the significance of Window 4-----and it is probably there that this person finds out for the first time, that he or she is HIV+ and will not be going to the US.

    I was with my wife and stepkids when they went through this. My youngest stepdaughter was about 5 or 6, and she was probed, front and back, just as my wife and older stepdaughters were. When we sat in the the waiting room, one by one they were all called to Window 1 and 2. My youngest step son was about 4, maybe 5. We probably waited another 40 minutes for him to be called. When his name came up we were told to go to Window 3. There they told us that they found something on his chest x-ray and that his lymph nodes were swollen and he had a slight fever, therefore they concluded that he had TB. We were told that we would have to report every morning for 1 week to the clinic at 7:00 am, if we were late or missed a day it could mean his application would be cancelled. They would not tell us if he would be able to go, or how he would be able to go with us to America, other than depending on the severity he may not be able to immigrate. They displayed no emotion, no empathy, no sympathy, just simply told us the rules (nor did they at window 4----it was just business as usual to them).

    We had to get up at 5:00 in order to make our way across Manila and be there by 7:00. When we got there we found that we were reporting to the clinic among a bunch of hacking and coughing people who obviously were sick with Tuberculosis. We had to report that we were there and that wait for his number----then they would make him cough into a cup. He did not have a productive cough, so they kept making him cough and then resorted to having him spit in the cup. We sat there among people of all ages, most of whom obviously were afflicted with TB. My stepson was clearly worried----I still feel sorry for him with that worried look in his 5 year old eyes that he may end up in the Philippines while his brothers, sisters, mom, and stepdad moved to America. He clearly understood the implications of what was happening---though we were dead set on doing everything we could to get him here.

    At the end of the week, we were told that apparently the TB was dormant or in remission, so that he should be able to go to America, but only after completing a regimen of antibiotics. But then he would have to report to the Department of Health here within 10 days of arrival. Long story short, the doctor here looked at the x-rays and said, "I don't see any sign of TB here. What are they talking about?"

    I pointed out that they said he had swollen lymph nodes. She checked them and said, "Yes, they seem a bit swollen." Then she thought for a moment and said, "Wait a minute, open your mouth." There was the whole problem-----he had some bad teeth.
     
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  6. TheSamantha

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    As for the whole "Mexicans are rapists" slander:

    He said a subset of Mexicans are rapists: illegals. Not only that, he said a subset of illegals are rapists! Look at the footage.

    Plus, get this: virtually all Central American women are girls are raped on their way across the border by their male counterparts.

    He was speaking on their behalf!
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    Tell that to the IRA. That is if you fancy being subject to a 'punishment beating'.
     
  8. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Once again, what is the source of your "information"?
     
  9. TheSamantha

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    Stefan Molyneux, Ben Shapiro, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Milo Yiannopolis, etc.
     
  10. monkjr

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    He said he has a "dead man" switch that accounts for his death.

    It'd be really funny though if he died due to natural causes (legit natural causes) and then that's how the list got leaked at no fault of any outside source giving him obstacles, and were in actuality caving into his request.
     
  11. monkjr

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    Can I ask permission to share this story to others I debate online or meet with online to drive your point farther? I really like this post because it speaks to the heart is and truthfully graphic.
     
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  12. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Yes----you certainly may-----and if there is anything else I can help with, I'd be happy to. I have seen firsthand more than once how screwed up our immigration system is.
     
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  13. TheSamantha

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    Is it different if the child is a US citizen, because when we escaped war torn West Africa, we got to live here no problem.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What country in Africa are you from?
     
  15. TheSamantha

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    I'm American but my parents and sister are Liberian. :)
     
  16. Moonglow181

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    Trump is speaking in the background on my tv right now talking about how wonderful he is. Maybe he can convince himself of that....It is not working on me....I cannot listen to him any longer.
     
  17. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    It may have had something to do with the war-torn part. For example, it is very easy to come her on an asylum visa if you can convinve the US that there is reason for you to seek asylum. An investor visa is also an easy to come apparently.

    I am a natural born American citizen (because my ship crash landed here in Area 51.;-) ) My son is also an American citizen even though he was born in the Philippines. But that did not make any difference for my step kids and wife.

    Then again----it could also be simply discrimination against Filipino people, I don't know. However the river they have to sneak across is basically the size of the whole distance across the Pacific.


    But speaking of asylum, here is another story: My youngest stepdaughter's birth certificate should have said that she was born in Oct. 1985, but this was a typo and should have read Oct 1983. Her birth certificate made it look like she was only 5 months older than her brother. We tried to fix it at the CIty Hall, but they said that it would have be done through the courts and was a process that was very difficult and would take many years. Normally in the Philippines, you can fix anything by paying money under the table---but they refused----I guess we didn't have enough----in any event they said they could not.

    So one day we saw in the paper this large adverstisement of a US law firm who was coming to Manila to help with immigration----free consultation it said. So we thought we would see what they could do for us. They had no interest in helping us other than to suggest submitting with signed afidavits stating her true age.

    We didn't know it, but my sister-in-law and her husband went in to talk to them. As it turns out, their whole thing was to get people to fork over money and they would get you to the US on an asylum visa. Here's the the problem though----the US does not offer asylum visas to Filipinos because there is no recognized issues with the Philippines requiring asylum.

    My sister-in-law forked over somewhere between US$70,000 and $100,000 and they were able to go to the US on an asylum visa. The attorneys had some kind of a trick. But because there was no legitiamte case for asylum, their case would go up for consideration each year. This meant that they had to pay the same law firm another $50,000 after each year in order to stay another year.

    In the Philippines they were pretty well to do. They had a business that sold water. But in after paying the initial fee and moving to the US, both her and her husband had to work 2 jobs each to save enough to pay the immigration attorney to stay another year. The children worked to contribute too. I believe they were able to stay up until the 4th year when they decided to let it lapse and come back to the Philippines.

    But there was no waiting for them. After they paid the attorney, they left within a month. My wife seems to think that they went through the same dehumanizing medical exams, but I don't think so...


    Undoubtedly, someone or two or three at INS was sharing in this bounty----when we showed up that day, there were quite a few people lined up to meet them, and a lot of them obviously had money. I imagine they did pretty good on this scam. I also think that they showed up in Manila every few years to get a new batch of people.
     
  18. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Speaking of Trump------how funny is that-------his daughter makes a youtube video urging people, (women?) to register Republican so that they can vote for her father. She says it is so easy to do.

    ..................And then she and her brother don't even register in time to vote for their father!!!

    LMAO!!!
     
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  19. newo

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    So.....lately he's hurt his campaign saying women who get abortions should be punished, and with his campaign manager assaulting a female reporter. Looks like he's not going to be able to lock it up and Ted Cruz might steal it from him at the convention.

    So now it's down to Trump, Cruz, Hillary and Bernie. Hate to be negative but I suspect our next President will be assassinated.
     
  20. Moonglow181

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    I found out today that trump will be in this area on Sunday....I say to that...at least, it is a little farther away from me directly this time....LOL

    His town hall with Anderson Cooper last night was what i was referring to....The first ten minutes were the ...."Me, me, song..."...by him...i still do not know who he really is or what he stands for,....I feel he reflects a lot of angry feelings about many things that people can relate to and that is why he is so high in the polls.....but who is he really?
     
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