Donald Trump

Trump has made it very clear that he thinks we need more violence in American politics. He's been saying it for two weeks, and now it's starting to happen.

Callers on local talk radio are saying that what every liberal really needs is a good beating.

 

It’s getting rather worrying, what next, Saalschutz Abteilung just like another demagogue had in his rise to power

 

True, but if he did he would insult them, but then again they wouldn't know it.

 

I believe the term redneck originally meant those who worked outdoors in the sun, which was a slap at people who were not of a 'higher' class, farmers of THIS era notwithstanding.
Since those that tilled the soil were looked upon as not educated, which was more than likely the case--voila--probable dumb-asses, which has proven to be the case for those with not much going on in their lives, no education to speak of and and wonder of wonders--are susceptable to simplistic solutions, often using violence as a means to confront problems for which others may use applicable words. "punch 'em in the face," is just what they need to hear from someone they can relate to.

One of the supreme court justices some decades back, said= "I don't know how to define obscenity--but I know it when I see it." Same with rednecks----

 

Hi Skip

The Sturmabteilung (Storm detachment or Brown shirts) they were the group that grow out of the Saalschutz Abteilung (hall defense detachment) who would throw out (and beat up) people that demonstrated against Hitler at his rallies, and the Saalschutz Abteilung began as just rough types at the rallies taking things into their own hands and not been stopped by the Great Leader

But I agree it’s only a simple step from one to another and the first step seems to have already been taken.

 

That's the most common theory of the origin. I know another one that would be of particular interest to you.

When the coal mine owners of West Virginia and eastern Kentucky hired thugs to break the young, struggling union movement, a small civil war resulted, climaxing at the battle of Blair Mountain (WV). Lacking uniforms and not wanting confusion on the battlefield to result in deaths from friendly fire, they tied red bandannas around their necks. Those were commonly used by miners back then because it was all they had to reduce the amount of coal dust they were breathing in every day. The mercenaries called them red necks.

Southern farmers could be more accurately described as brown necks, because they're outdoors all summer long. The red only lasts for a few days in the spring.

 

Chicago in '68 , democrats convention, the cops were used. Now , the rednecks AND the cops are up.

 

Thanks Karen. Maybe both are correct. ( the miners are STILL treated badly, from what I read. If ANY workers need a strong union--it would be the miners.)

 

WV was and still is better in some ways than extreme western VA, where most of the mines are still nonunion. Eastern Kentucky is in a bad situation too. Biggest collection of mountaintop stripmines in America, which are catastrophic for the local environment.

I used to think it was potentially confusing to voters to talk too much about the early history of unions, since so much that they accomplished has been written into federal law. But now, we're faced with a scenario where somebody like Trump could be elected and workers could lose everything previous generations worked for, as laws and regulations get repealed in an effort to chase the dishonest fantasy of "trickle down economics".

Quite a few current worker protections are directly linked to horrible tragedies that took place in West Virginia. For those who are curious, do a web search on the Mononga Mine explosion and the hydro tunnel disaster at Hawk's Nest. That's a good start.

 

I really thought is was a joke.....a bad dream.....wake me up when it is over, but now, the seriousness of it is setting in.....Seems like Hitler reincarnated.

 

Hitler had better hair.

 

No we have entered a shameless era and mass mindset, except for a very few, shame does not exist at all in fact it's been inverted to where righteousness and shameful behavior have been flipped and inverted.

With righteousness being subverted by the phrase "being politically correct", and since we don't have to be that anymore according to trump (cause to him that's the real problem) we've jettisoned any concept of righteousness from politics on the right and what appears could be the center of it as well depending how well Trump does in the general election 2016.

As a Christian I certainly feel now we are in the end times.

 

I have heard that quite alot lately from a few people...The end of times is near......It seems to be a general feeling, anyway. Do you think that Donald Trump will be the catalyst?

 

Meh more information is out there yes but that doesn't mean propaganda doesn't work.

In order for propaganda to not work the people have to know how to decern information that's released as credible versus not credible.

Unfortunately it seems that while the information is out there people start getting emotional, making fallacies and conspiracy theory, and then marketing that false theory on youtube until it suddenly makes a scandalous story for ratings on some news network cuz they want that ad revenue.

It's a vicious cycle and it a false equivocation to say More information = smart people or public.


The founding fathers of America weren't smart or wise because they had information, they were regarded as so because they knew how to use, draft, write, explain, theorize properly, and converse with that knowledge.


That's not even to mention that nowadays the public has been shirking boring research and thinking for the pleasurable gratification of social life banter + reality TV or pop culture and the serious part of their lives revolves around personal goals like education. But very few young people are smart AND wise and knowledgable in a pragmatic sense about civics and human nature's application of back stabbing leverage within the rules and procedures of physics.


Hence you why we're led to what we're seeing with Trump now....it's just anger, not wise anger, just complete and utter dark side rage.

 

Many sources are key, as some people just like to sabotage things, too, with lies.
Problem is is that that is all it takes for some people to get emotive.....pure ugly deceitful gossip.....I have seen it many times....and to others, as well.
One should know in their heart of hearts what is the truth.....anyway.

 

No.... Sorry, but No.

 

Do you have any idea how many times that has been said in the last 2000 years? It has been almost a constant thing.