Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Aug 21, 2015.

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  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Do you prefer the political system in Russia to ours, or think it's just as good.? Do you think Russia has an acceptable human rights record or that ours is just as bad? Do you think its activities in the Ukraine were justified? Do you like what the Russians and Syria have been doing in Aleppo? Do you think Putin is just another political leader instead of a dictator who jails or assassinates political opponents? Aren't you bothered in the slightest by the fact that the Donald toes the Russian line on virtually every issue and has expressed his admiration for Putin? Do you think it's acceptable for Russian hackers to attack our electoral system/ And you say "any tensions between the U.S. and Russia are over competing routes through Syria? Sorry, I think it's you who need to open your eyes.
     
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  2. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    As poorly as we are Governed - seems Good to be a Brit at this time
     
  3. Wu Li Heron

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    When people ask me about sports I tell them I'm a professional mud wrestling fan, with ramen noodles being a favorite. Watching guys in tights and cups and face masks wrestling over who gets to play with their balls just never turned me on. Its the future of politics as we know it with one Provence in Italy electing a popular porn star to office. The Russians are famous for their wrestlers.
     
  4. Meliai

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    I generally think of the US and Russia as two sides of the same coin. They are both superpowers who try to throw their weight around and control the rest of the world. I dont have to like Russia to dislike the actions of the US government, so dont try to pin me into your false dichotomy, thanks!

    Also, why do you act as if tensions between two nations because of energy/natural resources is a ridiculous notion? Arent most wars fought over this? Have you bothered to research the US's role in syria beyind what the White House and their media mouthpieces tell you?
     
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  5. Piaf

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    Wow.
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No, you need to watch your own video.

    She said if Iran launches a nuclear first strike against Israel, we would initiate a massage retaliation. Nothing in there about the U.S. being the first to use nuclear weapons. We have had that policy for a long time.
     
  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Wrong. Trump was for the Iraqi war.

    Hillary voted to give Bush the power to invade Iraq after and only after all diplomatic channels were tried....he didn't do that.
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Could be that it's not all bad people as you would like to lump everyone together...but the some what rational people, no mater where they stand on other matters.

    As far as a Trump victory all it would prove is the gullibility of the American public. By the way, what are these heinous acts of violence you are talking about?
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    LOL
     
  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The evidence is getting to be pretty strong.

    19 intelligence agencies and several security firms seem to think it's Russia.
    It seems Trump's team had advance knowledge of the Podesta leak.
    In July Trump invited Russia to illegally hack Clinton
     
  12. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    American housewives used to send wallpaper and drapes to CBS in the 50s because Alice Kramden's kitchen was so drab. I have no doubts at all about the gullibility of Americans.
     
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  13. storch

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    Did someone tell you that Iran has nuclear weapons? And did you believe them?
     
  14. storch

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    Also, from your link:

    There is mounting evidence that the Russian government is supplying WikiLeaks with hacked emails pertaining to the US presidential election, US officials familiar with the investigation have told CNN.

    As WikiLeaks continues to publish emails belonging to Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, US officials told CNN that there is growing evidence that Russia is using the organization as a delivery vehicle for the messages and other stolen information.

    The methods of the disclosures "suggest Moscow is at least providing the information or is possibly directly responsible for the leaks," one US official said.
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    You'll have to keep us informed concerning when they know something for sure.

    Usually, I tell people to read between the lines. But in this case, you need only read what is in the lines.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I apologize, I was thinking of the wrong video. While researching your propaganda video I came across the actual video in which she made those statements....

    http://youtu.be/xAO4fH6g0g0​
    It is very clear that she said if they develop and use nukes first.
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I will.

    Here's another:
    http://youtu.be/5B4CAe4zbKM​
    You have to remember that the government may never reveal exactly who is doing the hacking as it could compromise their intelligence gathering...but they sure can hint.
     
  17. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    You need to calm down.
     
  19. storch

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    If they had actual proof, they would not hesitate to expose it; thus the necessity for hints. They bank on the public's willingness to accept innuendo as absolute proof. And it would appear that their investment in that willingness is sound when it comes to some people.

    By the way, what do you believe the video you provided proves?
     
  20. storch

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    Contrary to your suspicion, I provided no propaganda video to this thread.

    Your words: "She said if Iran launches a nuclear first strike against Israel, we would initiate a massage retaliation."

    Your words: "It is very clear that she said if they develop and use nukes first."
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    You see the difference between your two statements, right? From here on out, I will hold you to your most recent statement.

    And we will view Clinton's threat as being based on pure supposition and no real evidence of such a threat; basically, a threat based on a preemptive supposition.
     
  21. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The first link is disturbing, I agree. no reason for that.

    I don't see much in the second.

    The third one...I don't know...needs verification.

    No excuse for the fourth.

    Same with the fifth.

    I think I've sen some of the sixth before...no excuse for that.

    Seventh is a good argument for gun control.

    Thanks for the links No excuse for violence. I agree.

    Unfortunately this is happening on both sides.

    NY Magazine

    Alternet

    ...and I'll stop there. No excuse for violence on either side.
     
  22. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    What are you talking about?
    I referenced the wrong video and I apologized. Something wrong with that?
     
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