Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Aug 21, 2015.

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  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Well, darnit, isn't it just soooo annoying when a country dictates who should be in power in another country, or what political system should a country have??
    How do you call it?

    I think it's called something like "bringing democracy" or "freeing X country's people"

    Why do you hate democracy, Moonglow???
     
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  2. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I do not hate democracy...i hate threats.
    I thought that was pretty evident.
     
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  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Say what? Are you saying Putin's Russia, of all places, is bringing us democracy to us by trying to influence our election? Could that possibly be what you're trying to say?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. Meliai

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    Piaf gets it

    Its just all a bit hypocritical for Americans to be worked up about it
     
  6. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I am still trying to figure out where I ever said i hated democracy...

    ok, well, whatever.

    shrugs
     
  7. Meliai

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    I believe she was referring to the fact that the US interferes with the political system of other nations all the time under the guise of bringing "freedom" and "democracy" to them. It was tongue in cheek
     
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  8. Moonglow181

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    I don't know. I am not in her brain. She should speak for herself. that was fine whatever she wants to say about it...but the last sentence brought me into it,with a question that makes no sense to me....so that is questionable to me.
     
  9. Moonglow181

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    So what was the big discredit Pence had to discredit any female coming forward about trump? I only watched tv for a few minutes, but hhappned to see a woman speaking about how she worked for trump for 11 years or something, and nothing ever shady went on. He was wonderful, professional, etc. etc....Was that it?
    I blurted out at the tv..."Because you were not his type!"
    "yeah, so..."

    I had a boss once treated everyone professionally and the girls all thought he was the messiah...great...but when I was stuck with him alone at night in the store...he was a different story.....which was unfair to me...I had to fight him off, and he was married.
     
  10. Moonglow181

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    OK, got it...you took one sentence I said out of context to what i had written prior, Piaf...the sentence you have quoted from me was after I said...on the internet yesterday....I kept seeing someone close to Putin says vote for Trump or face nuclear war...To me that felt like a threat....not a prediction, if that is what it was with Hillary in office, which it could have been, too...I don't know.....and I only considered that today after sleeping on it.

    and when I blurted out at the tv today.... "because you weren't his type...or not pretty enough."...it was because trump himself provided that line of understanding of himself....He was saying all day..."She was not pretty enough for me...Could you see me going for that?"...when he was discrediting the females who have come forward........so that is why i shouted back at the tv...not for any other reason.,,,and that is certainly not the way I look at people. I look to find the inner beauty, where it is at.....

    Whew...it takes alot of work to explain oneself....but it occurred to me....I will have to every step of the way now.... :D
     
  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Hillary threatened to go to war with Russia within the last month. And no MSM source reported on it.

    "Fight Russia with a Military Response"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4aIIpCDsLU
     
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  12. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Well,, I am certainly not for war of any kind, so I will just write in Bernie then.
    I don't know much about Jill Stein or the green party...
    I will research what she has to say.
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Obviously at first. But not in seriousness of course. Especially not all the americans who never had anything to do with it (not even by supporting it through a vote), like because they're too young. It only rings true at first and if you don't look deeper. Wether it is hypocrtiical or not it is still wise to be a bit worked up about it (right?) :p


    This will remain a joke of course. But if a majority of the voters would really like this (and it sometimes seems like its like it this time aorund) it should be a standard option in a funcioning democracy.
     
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  14. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    View from a Brit:-
    "When some (/any) body with such an aggressive ego has the potential to instigate actions that have Worldwide consequences - then we all have to worry"
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    Jill seems to be another Russophile, who criticizes U.S. human rights in Moscow but says nary a word about Russia's. Fair and balanced?
     
  16. Aerianne

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    Yes, you're right about that. Hillary has already said she would not hesitate to use nukes if Israel is attacked.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3Z1Sg8Lj8
     
  17. Meliai

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    Why the focus on Russia? Why not Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, China, North Korea?

    Or maybe she should just focus on the US since this is the country in which she wants to govern.
     
  18. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Whist I read about things that 'people would do', I am somewhat sceptical of the truth in that (they are after all politicians) - nukes - in that region, I would doubt, for the consequences would be too disadvantageous for the US (Going in like the 7th Cavalry however, I can well believe!)
    - The trouble is with Trump - that he seems to be openly courting danger - "I will do" seems more with menacing bravado than political flag waving
     
  19. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Perhaps so, but Trump was against the republican war on Iraq, Hillary voted for it. As for menacing bravado, I kind of wish we would see some of that from Mrs. Clinton. Where's the dreaded "Clinton Machine"? Trump is having an easy time of her as will Putin, another menacing bravado whore who likes to pose with big cats and no shirt.

    With the recent uranium deals and lack of adequate centrifuge tracking it's more likely the first nuke delivered to a target in the middle east will come from Iran. Their most obvious target would seem to be Israel, but consider how much more control they would gain by taking out the Saudi capital on a royal holiday. The US would hesitate.

    I doubt Trump wants to start a war, but I'm certain a war will find him if he wins. One certainly found GW Bush. And it was no shock that he went after Saddam Hussein, the guy who targeted his daddy, he said it aloud. Saddam was a trophy to elite republican warmongers. So was Bin Laden, only they were elite democrat war mongers.

    I personally think people should be more concerned about the looming recession, which will likely be followed by a 2 or 3 decades of economic depression, globally. Learn how to make soap folks. And stash away lots of pepper, salt and spices. Enough spices will make even the neighbor's annoying mutt into a feast!
     
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  20. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I only wish. This election cycle and really the last 5 or so years has seen the rise of the whiners and SO much crying. You just want to run away from it sometimes.
     
  21. Aerianne

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    So it boils down to a difference in personality, finesse in speaking. Yes, Trump is raw. He's not had the 30 years of being coached at how to sell his political ideas.
     
  22. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Trump is a Businessman - and a hugely successful one - for himself, so it seems to me he doesn't need any coaching in Selling - but if his word is his bond and the US (election result ?!?!) agrees and sees him win - some of us are 'afraid, - very afraid'
     
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