Donald Trump

And my comment was relevant to Trump, specifically in regards to effective means of debasing Trump. But not in particular to this thread, necessarily. Just in general.

You can say whatever you like as far as I'm concerned.

I'm just saying that, if you were having a conversation with a person about whether to vote for Hillary or Drumpf, you might think twice about getting into the area of shady foundations. That's all I was pointing out. But I'm not sure we should be getting into the specifics of that in this thread. Suffice it to say, they're both shady. I wouldn't say that Hillary's is worse than Drumpf's, but that wouldn't be saying much of anything, either.

Peace.

 

Any president should be America first when dealing with nations and having a flag pin is a sign of that. Besides what you said should be directed to the person pointing out the fact that Hilary isn't wearing a pin not at Trump.

 

Clearly it wasnt directed at Trump, he isnt in this thread?

 

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump go into a bakery.
As soon as they enter the bakery, Hillary steals three pastries and puts them in her pocket.
She says to Donald, "See how clever I am? The owner didn't see anything and I don't even need to lie.” I will definitely win the election.
The Donald says to Hillary, "That's the typical dishonesty you have displayed throughout your entire life, trickery and deceit. I am going to show you an honest way to get the same result."
Donald goes to the owner of the bakery and says, "Give me a pastry and I will show you a magic trick." Intrigued, the owner accepts and gives him a pastry. Trump swallows it and asks for another one. The owner gives him another one. Then Donald asks for a third pastry and eats that, too.
The owner is starting to wonder where the magic trick is and asks, "What did you do with the pastries?" Trump replies, "Look in Hillary's pocket".

 

Wearing the flag pin began as a Republican pseudo-patriot "Love It or Leave It" "let's wrap ourselves in the flag and no one will notice we're stealing our neighbors blind" thing, pushed by same sort of hypocrites who want to stick the Ten Commandments on every vacant plot of public property as a substitute for constructive public policy. The flag lapel pins caught on in the 60s with right wingers who wanted to take a stand against those $%^&* hippie commie draft-dodging anti-war types the likes of which seem to have found a home in these forums. It was that great patriot Richard M. Nixon who made them mandatory for his staff. I love this country, but find the flag pins offensive. It doesn't at all surprise me that a Fascist demagogue like the Donald would be wearing one, and if Hillary didn't that would be one more reason she'd have my vote.

 

A politician wearing a flag pin is as meaningless as the lies and empty promises that they spew. It is disgusting to think that Americans would consider voting for someone based partly on whether or not they're wearing a flag pin, especially when neither of the two candidates has any intention of making decisions that are in the best interest of the US. Flag displays have become nothing more than patriotic idolatry. Our standards for a Commander In Chief must be pathetically low.

 

They should be wearing pins of corporate logos of the special interest that sponsor them.

 

It's altogether absurd that you think I'm telling you what to do.

You can cherry pick pro-Clinton quotes all you want. Two can play at that game:

I wasn't trying to stop you from talking about Drumpf's foundation. I was just pointing out that there will be a certain weakness in arguing that Drumpf is worse than Clinton due to a shady foundation.

 

TRUMP: See, you’re telling the enemy everything you want to do. No wonder you’ve been fighting — no wonder you’ve been fighting ISIS your entire adult life. ....

TRUMP: You land at LaGuardia, you land at Kennedy, you land at LAX, you land at Newark, and you come in from Dubai and Qatar and you see these incredible — you come in from China, you see these incredible airports, and you land — we’ve become a third world country.
And it’s really a shame. And it’s politicians like Secretary Clinton that have caused this problem. Our country has tremendous problems. We’re a debtor nation. We’re a serious debtor nation. And we have a country that needs new roads, new tunnels, new bridges, new airports, new schools, new hospitals. And we don’t have the money, because it’s been squandered on so many of your ideas.

HOLT: We’ll let you respond and we’ll move on to the next segment.

CLINTON: And maybe because you haven’t paid any federal income tax for a lot of years. (APPLAUSE)
And the other thing I think is important...

TRUMP: It would be squandered, too, believe me.

 

Not to mention having a copy of the constitution in your pocket. Do you notice that so many politicians who proudly make a show of pulling out a copy of the constitution to push points over such things as National Healthcare are the ones who will quickly advocate policies that blatantly infringe upon constitutional rights, such as the Stop and Frisk policy.

 

Newsweek is reporting that Trump's casino company spent $68,000 in Cuba in 1998, thereby breaking US law. Trump denies it of course. I'm not saying it's true but it wouldn't be surprising; obeying the law is not a priority for the wealthy and well connected (we could be talking either Hillary or Donald here). Any of us could have gotten in trouble for something as inconsequential as trying to buy Cuban cigars.

http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/09/report-trump-violated-cuba-embargo-105927

 

Besides the fact that Clinton made a good point about taxes (I mean he's running to be President of the United States, for Christ's sakes, and he doesn't even pay taxes to help support the system that he will be leading...?!) this is among some of the stupidest things he said in the debate.

Seriously, is Heathrow any better than any major US airport? Is Narita in Japan any better? How about the airport in HongKong? No. No. No. No. How is LAX or Kennedy worse off than any of these other airports. I have flown into numerous 3rd world country airports that are barely as good as a small municipal airport that serves only private and corporate airplanes. There is a small airport near me, that is just as good as the international airport in Bangkok, or the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila. Yet none of these are anywhere as good as LAX, or Denver International, for example. I don't think I have been in any airport in America and encountered the smell of urine like you do in places of the Charles DeGaulle airport in Paris...

On the other hand, walk into any main Trump building in America---with his name in bright large letters at the top, and you will see the exact same decadence (decay) of the upper class that you see in any 3rd World country----the vulgarity and vanity of an upper class that exploits the citizens of its country as it destroys the middle class, and tramples on the poverty stricken masses...

 

I doubt that Trump uses the same parts of these airports as passengers on commercial airlines do.

 

Yay we agree :cheers2:

 

Last Sunday's epsiode of This Week Tonight with John Oliver had a good piece on Hillary Clinton. His staff spent weeks going through and investigating all the cases against Clinton, and the accusation thrown at her by the Republicans. The conclusion was that while the scandals surrounding Clinton are 'irritating' they could not find a single case where she actually broke the law------something you cannot really say about Trump.

 

As if they didn't go into their investigation with a bias. Why should anyone trust anyone in the corporate media to deliver them the truth? All they do is lie and cover for her.

 

What polls are those? None of the scientific polls show that, and the others are absolutely worthless. Speaking of spin doctors, those stooges Trump sends out a surrogates twist themselves into knots trying to reconcile his statements with reality. It's like Pravada and Isvestia during the Soviet years, when the party line changed at the drop of a hat, and history was re-written accordingly.

 

So Donald attacks machado again....and this guy wants to be President of the US. I say he is in the wrong business...go into gossip column writing...or even start your own gossip magazine or gossip empire.

There is a commercial out of children wathcing tv...and some chubby children...hearing Trump say "eating machine..."...and all of the vile things he calls people...with sad looks on their faces. yes, this is a leader?

Someone wrote this to me, and I did laugh...

"
You go Donnie! Keep harping on this--hopefully til election day. The guy is Insane. Like a dog on a bone or a half wit running after tinsel. So easily distracted and so easily manipulated to Rage."

and here is the machado article link....from the New York Times....

but let us keep bashing Hillary....I don't mean to rain on your parade ....but someone has to be the antithesis of the insanity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/us/politics/donald-trump-alicia-machado.html