Don’t fall ill in the UK. Because if you do. You're STUFFED!

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  1. Boozercruiser

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    Heart attack patients wait three hours for an ambulance in parts of England | Daily Mail Online

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    For heavens sake.
    Don’t fall ill and need an urgent Ambulance in the UK.


    Heart attack patients have been forced to wait three hours for an ambulance in one of England's worst affected areas, in a sign of the ever-worsening NHS crisis.

    NHS chiefs in Cornwall admitted they are 'not proud' of the 200-minute average wait time for Category 2 calls — which is 11 times the national target of 18 minutes.

    It is the worst response time on record for the area. One 90-year-old grandmother in the county had to wait 40 hours for an ambulance after falling on Sunday.

    But waits nationally are also dire, with the average heart attack patient seen in just under an hour in July.

    Emergency departments are also currently at breaking point — with almost 30,000 people waiting 12-plus hours in A&E a day.

    In a worrying sign, an internal NHS memo leaked today shows deaths in emergency departments are becoming 'increasingly common'.

    Government officials are now investigating 'potentially preventable' deaths that may have been caused by the delays in ambulances and emergency departments.

    Officials say this may be behind the unexplained surge in excess mortalities in recent months.

    WHAT DO THE LATEST NHS PERFORMANCE FIGURES SHOW?

    The overall waiting list jumped to 6.73million in June. This is up from 6.61m in May and is the highest number since records began in August 2007.

    There were 3,861 people waiting more than two years to start treatment at the end of June, down from 8,028 in May but still higher than April 2021, when the figure started to be recorded.

    The number of people waiting more than a year to start hospital treatment was 355,774, up from 331,623 the previous month and the highest ever logged.

    A record 29,317 people had to wait more than 12 hours in A&E departments in England in July. The figure is up from 22,034 in June and is the highest for any month since record began in 2010.

    A total of 136,221 people waited at least four hours from the decision to admit to admission in July, down slightly from the all-time high of 136,298 in March.

    Just 71 per cent of patients were seen within four hours at A&Es last month, the worst ever performance. NHS standards set out that 95 per cent should be admitted, transferred or discharged within the four-hour window.

    The average category one response time – calls from people with life-threatening illnesses or injuries – was nine minutes and 35 seconds. The target time is seven minutes.

    Ambulances took an average of 59 minutes and seven seconds to respond to category two calls, such as burns, epilepsy and strokes. This is three times longer than the 18 minute target.

    Response times for category three calls – such as late stages of labour, non-severe burns and diabetes – averaged three hours, 17 minutes and six seconds. Ambulances are supposed to arrive to these calls within two hours.

    Some 430,037 patients (27.5 per cent) were waiting more than six weeks for a key diagnostic test in June, including an MRI scan, non-obstetric ultrasound or gastroscopy.

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  2. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    I worked for London ambulance for about 2 years and it was a complete shambles. The policy seemed to be, if you don't do anything, you can't do anything wrong.
    When I applied for a permanent position, they kicked me out, claiming that I did not always follow procedure, despite the fact that I had passed the exams and assessments with flying colours.
    On my appeal, they then told me that I would not be able to deal with the diverse population in London. Well I think that's what the interviewer said and it was obviously true, because I certainly could not understand her. Silly me, prior to the interviews, rather than read up on the latest life support equipment, I should have brushed up on a few Asian languages,
     
  3. NookaTheNook

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    Well I suppose it would be the wrong thing to do, employ a racist in the London ambulance service, can’t see that working.
     
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  4. Vladimir Illich

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    Although under severe pressure, I can't fault SECAMBS - have had to travel in the back of a yellow peril (Ambulance) on a number of occasions and have always been treated with respect and courtesy.
     
  5. Boozercruiser

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    Sounds about right as things are now wilsjane.
    Shambles when you worked for them.
    But at least 10 times worse now!

    Full of WOKE.
    Full of Political Correctness.
    Full of sexism.
    Full of racism.
    I could go on, but I guess you get the drift!

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  6. Boozercruiser

    Boozercruiser Kenny Lifetime Supporter

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    Problem is Vlad.
    I have had the same experiences as you, and the actual Ambulance workers is just fine.
    It's the Bastard Bosses and the Bastard Governments of all persuasions which have put our NHS to rack and ruin.
    So to speak. :)

    The NHS now is nothing compared to it's original aims:

    February 24th 1948

    The New National Health Service

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    Your new National Health Service begins on 5th July. What is it? How do you get it?


    It will provide you with all medical, dental and nursing care. Everyone – rich or poor, man, woman or child-can use it or any part of it. There are no charges, except for a few special items. There are no insurance qualifications. But it is not a “charity”. You are all paying for it, mainly as tax payers, and it will relieve your money worries in time of illness.

    Choose your Doctor Now

    You and everyone in your family will be entitled to all usual advice and treatment from a family doctor. Everyone aged 16 and over can choose his or her own doctor. A family need not all have the same doctor, but parents or guardians choose for children under 16.

    Your dealings with your doctor will remain as they are now: personal and confidential. You will visit his surgery, or he will call on you, as may be necessary. The difference is that the doctor will be paid by the Government, out of funds provided by everybody.

    Choose a doctor now- ask him to be your doctor under the new arrangements. Many will choose their present doctors. Any doctor can decline to accept a patient. If one doctor cannot accept you, ask another, or ask to be put in touch with one by the new “Executive Council” which has been set up in your area (you can get its address from the Post Office).

    If you are already on a doctor’s list under the old National Health Insurance Scheme, now is the time to decide. Get an application form for each member of the family from the doctor you choose, or from any Post Office, Executive Council Office, or public library. Fill in the forms and give them to the doctor.

    Later, your local Executive Council will send a “medical card” to everyone who has been accepted by a doctor. If you want to change your doctor, you can do so at any time without difficulty. If you need a doctor when away from your own district, you can go to any doctor who is taking part in the new arrangements. You will not have to pay.

    Help to have the Scheme ready by 5th July by choosing your doctor at once.

    For any further information about these arrangements, ask at the offices of the local Executive Council.

    Maternity Services

    An expectant mother can have the services of a doctor who undertakes maternity work (whether he is her usual doctor or not), and of a midwife, as well as general care before and after confinement. If her usual doctor does not undertake maternity work, he, or the Welfare Centre, will put the expectant mother in touch with another doctor. It will be the doctor’s responsibility, with a midwife, to give all proper care and ( if he considers it necessary or is called in by the midwife) to be present at the confinement.

    Hospital and Specialist Services

    You will also be entitled to all forms of treatment in general or special hospitals, whether as an in-patient or as an out-patient. These include, for instance, maternity care, sanatorium care, care of mental health, and all surgical operations.

    Medicines, Drugs and Appliances

    Your doctor will give you a prescription for any medicines and drugs you need. You can get these free from any chemist who takes part in the Scheme. In some country areas the doctor himself may dispense medicines.

    The same is true for all necessary appliances. Some of them will be obtainable through hospitals; some your doctor can prescribe for you. There will be no charge, unless careless breakage causes earlier replacement than usual.

    Care of the Teeth

    A dental service will be provided, but at present there are too few dentists to make a full service available to all without delay.

    After 5th July you can go to any dentist taking part in the new arrangements (there will be a list at your Post Office). You need no application form. Just call, by appointment, on the dentist of your choice when you need him. At his surgery you and he will sign a form for your treatment under the new arrangements. All necessary fillings and dentures will be supplied without fee, but if you want anything specially expensive, and beyond what is necessary, you will pay the extra cost yourself.

    Until a full dental service, without delays, can be made available, a special priority service for expectant and nursing mothers and young children is being organised by local authorities (in addition to the school dental service). Full information about this priority service can be obtained at Welfare Centres.

    Care of the Eyes

    Care of the eyes will be undertaken by specialists at hospitals, or at special clinics which will be part of the hospital service, as fast as these can be organised. Meanwhile a Supplementary Eye Service will be available after 5th July.

    First get a recommendation from your family doctor that your eyes need testing. Then hand that recommendation to any doctor with special qualifications (lists will be available) or to any ophthalmic optician taking part in the new service.. If you need glasses, these will be provided without charge. For re-testing you can go direct to any of the doctors with special qualifications, or to an ophthalmic optician.

    The National Health Service will provide several kinds of spectacles of different types. For specially expensive types you will have to pay the extra cost.

    Deafness

    Specialist ear clinics will be established as resources allow. At them you will get not only an expert opinion upon deafness but also, if necessary, a new hearing aid invented by a special committee of the Medical Research Council. Production of these aids is now going on, but will not meet all demands at once. They will be supplied free, when ready, together with a reasonable allowance of maintenance batteries

    Home Health Services

    Special premises known as Health Centres may later be opened in your district. Doctors may be accommodated there instead of in their own surgeries, but you will still have “your own doctor” to give you personal and confidential treatment. He will still come to your home as necessary. At the Health Centre he will be able to use equipment supplied from public funds. These Centres may also offer dentistry and other services on the spot.

    What to Do Now

    1. Choose your doctor.
    2. Get application forms from him or from the Post Office, Public Library, or office of the local Executive Council.
    3. Fill in one for each member of the family.
    4. Hand them to the doctor
     
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  7. Vladimir Illich

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    Please note: This was under a LABOUR Government, that bastard Churchill and the rest of the scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' opposed this legislation at every step !!!
     
  8. Tyrsonswood

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    Don't fall ill in the US... You will become penniless,

    and after you die your family has to pay the balance due. dunno.gif
     
  9. wilsjane

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    The old joke about the black lesbian amputee getting the job, really is starting to come true.:D:D
     
  10. wilsjane

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    The fault is not with the staff, it is with the system being top heavy with bureaucracy and people at the top with no medical qualifications.

    These are the people who thought that the large hospitals that had to be all bar evacuated during covid and cease all surgical procedures were the way forward for the NHS.
     
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  11. Vladimir Illich

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    Yes, and who was responsible for that ??? One particular Health Secretary named Andrew Lansley - a member of the scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' !!!
     
  12. Boozercruiser

    Boozercruiser Kenny Lifetime Supporter

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    You have pretty much got that spot on wilsjane.
    Unfortunately millions of people are now suffering, with thousands dying because of exactly that policy.

    Covid hasn’t just killed all the people who died from that, the decisions you speak of has and will continue goodness knows how many other people.

    Lockdowns 'killing more than Covid' with 10K excess deaths since June

    DOMINO EFFECT
    Lockdowns ‘killing more people than Covid’ as 10K excess deaths recorded since June

    • 10:15, 19 Aug 2022
    • Updated: 10:41, 19 Aug 2022
    THE effect of Covid lockdowns - and the subsequent pressure on the NHS to catch up - is set to kill more people than Covid, data suggest.

    Since June, 10,000 deaths have been recorded that are above what would have been expected, known as “excess deaths”.

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  13. Vladimir Illich

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    And again where does the blame lie ??? with the scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' of course !!! If, instead of flip flopping on whether we go for a lock-down or not bastard Boris had done the decent thing and gone for a lock-down in February 2020 Many thousands of lives could have been saved. Then there was the question of allowing the elderly, adm itted to hospital, being allowed back to the nursing home from whence they came, without testing whether they were Covid 'free' or not. Again had the government got their eyes on this, many thousands of lives could have been saved.

    Finally, there was the scandal of PPE with Ministers allowing their 'mates' to bid for the suppply of such masks, notwithstanding these people had no experience of supplying PPE, had no facilities at their disposal to produce it, and that which they did supply was totally inappropriate and nott able to be used.
     
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  14. Boozercruiser

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    I hate to say this! :p
    But I couldn’t agree with you more Vlad.:p:p
    The nursing home fiasco really was criminal.
    And PPE was a stinking ill thought out looking after mates disaster.
    Some ministers need to go to jail for that! :mad:

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  15. Vladimir Illich

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    My conversion of some of the members here is working, !!! we'll have you signed up as a card carrying member of the Communist party yet Kenny !!!
     
  16. Boozercruiser

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    No *ucking chance Vlad.
    No *ucking chance! :p
     
  17. Vladimir Illich

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    Methinks he doth protest too much !!! ;):laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
  18. Boozercruiser

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    Pot?
    Kettle? :tonguewink::laughing:
     
  19. Vladimir Illich

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    At least I have good, valid reasons to protest against this scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' government and all their members, accolytes and supporters like yourself !!!
     

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