Doesn't the situation in the US feel creepy to anyone?

Pattern analysis is big these days and so is network forensics. The big deal with network forensics is you can have an encrypted tunnel such as a VPN and they can still see that it's you. By monitoring routers on both sides of, let's say a big public VPN such as iPredator, they can see through pattern analysis of the connection which IP coming out of ipredator you are using. Pretty scary. That's why it's funny people think they are safe just because a specific public VPN has a no logging policy.

Can't hide on the Internet. Gotta hide IRL instead. Use burner laptops you get from the recycling plant (companies throw them away en mass) and find insecure wireless in residential neighborhoods (avoid commercial areas if possible because cameras are everywhere). Then throw that sucker away. That's considering you are pulling something like what Lulzsec and Anonymous do. So many people after the recent LOIC attack are going to get doors broken down.

I don't actually do any of that stuff, I just keep up with the technology and the theory behind it.

 

Youth for ron Paul! Ron Paul 2012! The shred of humility, good record, and liberty America has left!

With the big men and charge give him the GOP nomination? Probably not!

But still..RP 2012! This is a MOVEMENT

If there's too much insiderism to get him elected and this country gets even crappier will I go through the complicated process of obtaining visa for Denmark? Yes!

 

Internet censorship is certainly here - it has been here:
http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/US/?p=2011-06

Anyone know of a truly uncensored search engine? I see a niche forming into a huge gap.
I'm not talking about blacked out sites, I'm talking about omitted results. Makes me wonder how much footage of brutality perpetrated on Occupy protestors never saw the light of day on Youtube. Get your message out now, because 2012 will be the year of the info clamp down.

 

It's more than creepy.

 

We are all staring down at the end of the era of Postmodernism----This is great stuff and part of the Nihilism of our times---why aren't you guys posting on my thread under Mind Trips----religion----ethics----What is next After Postmodernism?

It is scary out there---and anything can happen. A recent study in Europe discovered that there is a core of multinational corporations that are mutually owned by each other through cross-shareholdings, and through the other companies that they own, which in turn own other multinationals----this core of 170 companies or something----I will have to look that up to get the exact numbers---all together own 80% of the global economy--directly or indirectly.

What is next after this era of postmodernism----we have no unifying truth within our culture, and we have tainted and destroyed the unifying truths of every other culture we have come in contact with. As far as we know--a culture cannot survive without a unifying truth---or unifing myth, or metaverse---whatever you want to call it----that thing that we see as truth that gives meaning to our lives as a culture.

Science replaced religion as our unifying truth---but the result was World War II, communism, fascism, and all the scientifically objectivistic philophies and policies that has harmed mankind since the Age of Reason. We now know that empirical science was not the truth that would carry us to a higher realm. And Postmodernism is all about trying to grab at anything and everything to find meaning, to fill this hole. But in our rationalism, religion can no longer be a cultural truth.

The objectivism of science may not be a cultural truth in this era of postmodernism, but it does drive the technology that could possibly destroy us.

I am not so pessimistic---but no one knows the future and anything can happen---what do you guys see as the next step for mankinds progess (or demise)?

 

How? You could only claim that point if you established that science was implemented as the basis of decisions which led to those events. And good luck trying to prove to us that Hitler's speeches or Stalin's purges were based on mathematical, physical, chemical or biological certainty.

 

No Walsh---you're taking it in too literal of a direction. I am not saying that Hitler or Stalin were scientists and used mathematical and scientific calculations to implement their strategies. I am talking about a meta-verse--the guiding philosophy of the culture. It is a bigger picture.

Hitler was not all about science, in fact he even had a fascination with mysticism, particularly a mixture of Eastern and Germanic pagan beliefs. But Nazism had its roots in a twisted version of the German rational philosophy that grew out of the Age of Reason, and a state manipulation of Kant, and Hegel, and even Nietzsche. Hitler had a rational vision of creating a super-race of Aryan people. This was so rationally invigorating to the local mindset, that a number of existentialist philosophers, and other thinkers across continental Europe rallied to its cause. Eugenics was the science behind Hitler’s policies of removing the unwanted: the crippled, feeble, and mentally retarded individuals, then the Jewish citizens. And it wasn’t just Hitler—all sides of the war invested heavily in technology and science. Hitler’s scientists developed the V-2, and the first jet fighter planes. America developed the Atom Bomb. Both the Germans and the Japanese experimented on living human beings (prisoners) in cold heartless ways, developing weapons, exploring death, pain, and endurance. All sides experimented on their own soldiers. And even in the US in the 1930’s leading into the war, we tried a new rationalistic and very objectivistic way of dealing with the Great Depression—using a relatively new science called economics

The Soviet Union built up a whole political system on the cold objectivism of Marxist dialectics. This was a taken as a scientific truth that would shape society into a communist utopia.

Look at the cold soulless architecture and design that came out of Western culture from the late 1800’s until after the middle of the 1900’s. Modernism and Postmodernism are most recognized as artistic terms, because it is through the art of our culture that this guiding philosophy symbolically appears from our social subconscious just as our own dreams symbolically arise from our inner subconscious.

One could argue that the Japanese were the only ones who were not guided by such a philosophy of science. After all it was Emperor Worship that caused the Japanese masses to embrace the fascism of their State religion, and at first glance we might think that State Shintoism was their metaverse. But Japan through its Meiji era, displayed an obvious inferiority complex towards the technological and scientific progress of the West. And through this, Western rationalism tainted the Japanese culture as they imitated their way to progress in their own fashion. But they also had their own uniquely Japanese way of embracing the rationalism of Confucius, which enabled them to shape their own objectivistic society for a common good. I have a collection of Japanese books from the late 1800’s to before World War II (and yes I speak, read, and write Japanese), and they read just like the communist propaganda of Russia, and the Nazi propaganda of Germany, but with a twist of the values and strong sense of duty that you found left over from the age of the samurai. But you don’t find the older spiritual values that went with the older metaverse. Only cold soulless rationalism. I believe with good reason that State Shinto is a product of the modern age.

So Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Wilson, Tojo, Churchill, were guided by a metaverse of rationality, in a sense, science was the new metaverse. Compare the battles and ideologies of the twentieth Century, with those of an earlier time, when religion was the metaverse of Western culture. With the church as our truth, we suffered the inquisitions, witch hunts, manifest destiny destroyed over 80% of the indigenous populations of two whole continents, and slaves were brought across the Atlantic like livestock. Serfdom and the feudal system was the true political structure when this unifying myth was religion. The rise of the Industrial Age accompanied the Age of Reason and therefore began with a transition into the new guiding philosophies of science.

Granted, philosophy is not exactly empirical science, but coming out of the Age of Reason, and in the mindset of the Modernistic Age, its rationality was taken as the logical answer. We still make this mistake today, using statistical patterns, and rational objectivism to label and place individuals into boxes. If you read Carl Jung’s book, The Undiscovered Self, you will see how modern society was on its way to destroying individualism. He refers to the cold-hearted rationalism of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Block, and its creation of State slaves, and he witnessed this first hand in Germany (something he does not really get into much, in fact he was a tool used by Hitler himself, but not without benefit as he replaced the Jewish Freud in eminence as a psychologist). But he feared for mankind’s individuality and self, in a society governed by the science of social progress. (I believe that it was the 1960’s and us hippies, with a philosophy that one sociologist labeled as spontaneous individuality, that saved Western culture from the demise Jung feared—but the same philosophies of social progress are once again today guiding Western culture, just not as naively as they were in the 1950’s).

But these comments you take issue with, are not just some theory I came up with. This is a common belief among the philosophers, sociologists, and social commentators of postmodernism.

 

It goes back a lot further than the US government. The US government was infiltrated and created by these people from the very beginning. Most of the founding fathers were Masons. America was founded with a secret destiny which the founders were all aware of.

 

I wouldn't play into the whole concept of masons controlling the world deal.... There have been many documented "secret societies" that fall under the category but to say they have been planning it all along is misguided. The illuminati group holds a belief that lucifer was the light bearer, the holder of knowledge... That's the main basis of secret societies.. To practice and share unkept knowledge. Ancient knowledge of astrology, sacred geometry, all the stuff that people back then would be killed for.. Lucifer in the biblical text brought the knowledge to humans. Gave us the ability to see good from evil, the lodge you proclaim to set forth the new world order can either be a group of smart gentleman or the big bad wolf. If you really want to say whats going on try using names like the Koch brothers, J.P Morgan, Rothschild. The multi-billionaires that have a monopoly over bare natural resources since the very beginning. These may all compose the "illuminati" but the name only holds enough power as it's beholder. There are controlling powers but this is not a movie, don't play into conspiracies because there's more lies than actual truth in that field.

 

I have been studying this stuff for 12 years. How long have you?

Freemasonry runs the world. There is a difference between low level Freemasonry and what it is at the top. The bankers are merely the superficial wielders of power. It goes higher than the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Maybe you should find out who or what they got their power from.

 

I don't disagree with your interpretation of 20th century history, but the point remains that the philosophy of science was not responsible for those events, but a misuse of it by those leaders and a misunderstanding of it by their subjects.

Take this example. I sell a drink advertised as bottled water. A number of people become ill after drinking it. Would I be allowed to claim that "water is bad" in general when the drink was found to contain toxins as well? It's the same thing here - you can't claim the 'guiding philosophy of science' creates problems when that philosophy was twisted and distorted to achieve political ends, made appealing to a public equally ignorant.

You mention objectivism several times, yet if scientific rationality were to dominate during WWII, objectivism should have vanished after Einstein's theories earlier. It didn't. Propping up Hitler's dogma with relativism would have been ridiculous, and completely against rationality and the philosophy of science, so in that sense if "cold, soulless" scientific rationality was truly applied, there would have been no war.

 

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Mason historians have admitted that it is most likely that within Freemasonry there is a very small inner circle of members with an agenda in mind, and that the vast majority of Freemasons have no idea that this inner circle even exists. The agendas of this inner circle could be responsible for the manipulation of many political and religious systems. If conspiracy theories mentioned the Order and Lodge of subversive politics, then maybe they would have a point to make. However, there is no credibility in vague theories...

Quote taken from external source. So rather than being so vague, lets be specific please!

Since when did this become a competition anakin? Shit i thought the boards were for people to learn from each other, not to see who's better than who.

 

I wasn't aware of this "situation". It's a shame my gay erotica books didn't mention it They have /failed me.

 

I had an idiot friend who used to be a mason.
We kept trying to convince him that what he was part of was just the front organization, the distraction.
He wouldn't hear it. He thought he was a total badass for being one of them.

 

Who wouldn't want to be in a club with cool handshakes?

 

Ahhh! I see where you are coming from Walsh. And even though it may not seem like it---that is what I believe too. In the thread I started on what comes next after Postmodernism, I didn’t want to share what I see as the potential next step in man’s progress. I didn’t want it to influence other people’s responses.

When the Postmodernist theorists speak of science and rationality as a failure, what is meant is that in the 20th Century it was a failure as a metaverse. I don’t think this is because science failed us. Rather it was an issue of what we considered to be rational logic—and therefore labeled as science—that took us down a path that was harmful in many ways, but more importantly, it did not give meaning to our life and culture, and failed as a unifying truth. For example, no scientist today, I hope, would ever consider eugenics as a science. Yet in the late 1800’s and certainly well into the 20th century, there were those who believed it to be empirically validated science, and shaped social policies based on its conclusions.

Then of course is the issue that none of this is an absolute either. While religion had been toppled as a metaverse, it still had its place in the overall scheme of things. Even today, religion has a scary hold on the politics in this country. Objectivistic thinking still shapes our views of the universe, even as we have a deeper understanding of relativism. This is why postmodernistic theorists come up with crazy, new, and seemingly pseudo-intellectual terms to describe problems like this, because when they say that science failed us, it can be too broad of a generalization, to define what they are trying to say. But in the end it boils down to what our cultures embraced as a scientific metaverse that failed us.

Now here is a little more of what I have been holding back on Walsh—since it ties into what you have been saying. Postmodernism is again, about trying to find that void of unifying meaning within our modern culture. This is what the new age is all about—grasping at values and traditions that we have long discarded, in hopes that something makes sense, or maybe if all of it is put together, it will become a new truth. The problem is that after the Age of Reason, and Modernism, as a culture we can no longer hold those old traditions as a truth—no matter how badly they are needed to save the earth, or put value back on the individual, or stop us from killing each other. All we end up with is plastic shamans and bastardized traditions.

At the same time, if you have ever sat through a Lakota yuwipi ceremony, or a house ceremony, or witnessed a sun dance, you would understand that there is a lot of power there. In the yuwipi and house ceremonies, things happen that are impossible to explain by science as we know it, and all you can conclude is that you and everyone else saw it--somehow. Christians and people of other faiths talk about miracles. There are experiments successfully being done by a group at MIT that uses intention to create experimental results involving animate and inanimate subjects. Call it what you will, the power of mind, the power of belief… This is what Jung tried so hard to explain without losing scientific credibility. Whatever it is, it touches upon what brings back dignity to the individual and gives meaning to life.

But to be a truth in today’s modern, rationalistic, and very fragmented world, it has to come from science. In a sense, you could say that possibly our very survival as a species, is dependent upon the quantum physicists becoming the priests or shamans of tomorrow. While the modernistic metaverse of science was a failure, we have gone too far to find meaning from anywhere other than science.

I believe that this metaverse is more than just a belief that unifies a culture. It actually relates to our relationship with each other and how we exist within and relate to the universe. When the church was our cultural truth, our ability to travel and communicate was limited by the speed of our two feet, or the legs of animals, or at best the speed of the wind opposing the waves. We were limited by the elements, and either made it or didn’t make it ‘by God’s will.’ In the Age of Reason, our universe was suddenly made up of atoms and electrons and we were able to move at the speed of steam, soon communication reached the speed of electricity. In the Modern Age, as we began to understand the universe in a relativistic sense, we saw a universe where time and space can bend, and we were able to send messages across the ether at the speed of light, and achieved speeds of travel faster than sound. We are now discovering that this universe is even far more bazaar, where a subatomic particle can be entangled with another particle somewhere across the universe, and share information faster than the speed of light.

The technology of the dark ages was a flask and a scalpel. In the Age of Reason, it was a voltaic pile (battery). The technology of the Modern Age was a vacuum tube. The technology of the Postmodern Age was a silicon chip. The question is what we can achieve from here: technology of our next era could very well be a quantum computer for example, or a long sharpened stick.

 

I was thinking of a new way to bypass DNS censorship. I call it EmDNS (eDNS is taken), or Embedded DNS. It works via a server-side script on the web server that supports the use of EmDNS. Alternatively you can use a URL shortener-esq site. The URL is resolved via OpenDNS or other service by the website you're on such as through a vB plugin. So let's say you make a link to piratebay.org, instead of the user clicking on it and going through his/her ISP to resolve TPB; it has been pre-resolved by the site and the user goes directly to an IP.

 

Has anybody else been hearing ads on the radio from the Department of Justice about how to tell if your coworkers might be a terrorist and about your duty to rat anyone out who is acting 'different?'