Does This Whole Isis Thing Remind You Of The Red Scare At All?

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  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    My lord they sure are shoving this stuff down Americans throats from what I can tell. A few isolated incidents can suddenly lead to all this scare mongering. Of course I am in S. America so I can not tell to what extent, but I see it plastered all over yahoo when ever I log on. I am sure it is even worse in the states. No doubt it is to instill fear into the hearts and minds of those who prefer to be spoon fed the news. Oh beware or your daughter will be lured into ISIS or whatever..Pssh. Makes me feel sad because 99 percent of the Muslim population of over 1.8 billion are probably well meaning people like anyone else. Sure, religion is a bit nuts, like any other religion. But outside that, they want the same thing as anyone else, love, peace, friends, happy family and success.

    But I take a gander at the comments in yahoo and most people are too dumb to realize that last point and just allow this propaganda to seep deep into their minds. Honestly I am more afraid of what any given politician does rather than some small poor group of people halfway around the globe. But oh well, that is just me...
     
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  2. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    What is the red scare?
     
  3. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    it is actually a bit like the red scare now that you mention it.
     
  4. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Ah, come on, we're the red scare at ISIS. In any case the double edged sword with the Russians is now the single edged sword by ISIS attacking the West. "Democracy nevertheless is on the run." ISIS should claim that.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The ISIS crisis is a farce. That's all it is. It's a "wag the dog" type scenario where the media fabricates complete bullshit the general public is supposed to believe without question and be fearful of. This is all about the take-down of Assad, and they need a convenient pretext to do what they hadn't achieved previously. I am so sick of the lies, and I simply cannot tolerate having conversation with people who believe these lies.
     
  6. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I think you guys exaggerate it more than the media does.
    No one gives a shit about ISIS.
     
  7. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    So are you saying the media made ISIS up. That those beheadings weren't real. that ISIS hasn't been making advances in Syria and Iraq? What exactly are you saying?
     
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  8. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    To PR everything is a conspiracy... Everything!
     
  9. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude HipForums Supporter

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    Yes its all BS to keep people scared and in thier control!!!!!
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Who is "they"? And are the "isolated incidents" you're talking about the beheadings, the attacks on non-Muslim minorities, the advances on Baghdad, etc.? Don't you think those incidents are significant? Don't you think anyone should care? The "Red Scare" was about alleged Communists in this country, and yes, it was hyped and should make us skeptical about being manipulated. More recently, and to the point, the neocons in the Bush administration hyped alQaeda into a larger than life menace, and they are fully capable of doing the same with ISIS. ISIS shouldn't be overestimated, but it shouldn't be underestimated either. You're correct about the 99% of the Muslim population, many of whom have spoken out against ISIS and joined the coalition against it. the head in sand approach, though, is simply naive. ISIS isn't poor, and has established momentum that calls for a response. So far, I wouldn't call the US response excessive. I'd call ISIS's actions excessive.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    They are on Turkeys border now, i think a ground war is now inevitable

    Gulf War III Bring it on!
     
  12. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Apparently thye control the spellchecker too!!!!!!
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    This is all shit you saw (or rather heard about) on the TV. You didn't witness it in person. There is something called propaganda. Our government and media use it to get people to go along with agendas which benefit those who most stand to gain from said agendas. I don't trust a government and media that have shown to chronically lie and distort the truth. This is what separates a critical thinker from the average sheep who is content to not question anything.

    If you think we want to go after ISIS to protect America (as it's being toppled) or help the people "over there" whose families we have already murdered and destroyed with drone strikes, you're simply a gullible moron, and I have no respect for gullible morons.

    ISIS is just a name the US bestowed upon a group of extremist fighters we armed and trained in the first place. It's nothing more than al-Qaeda 2.0, and al-Qaeda, too, was a creation of the US government.

    The beheading videos are fakes and were no doubt released by our own CIA to instill fear into people who don't know real history and are not awake to the shit our government pulls on a regular basis. The Foley video is said by analysts to be fake, and all the videos that have followed it, which appear to be almost exactly the same, are therefore likely fake also. None of those videos show beheading. They show some idiot in a British accent (probably an MI6 agent) wielding an obviously rubber knife, sawing across the necks of men who apparently have no blood.
     
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  14. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    A few moderate Muslims have spoken out. We really have no way to assess accurately what the majority of Muslims think.

    The very countries that have joined the 'coalition' are the very ones responsible for financing IS. Initially because they were fighting Assad, who as a Alwai is even more hated by the sunnis than we infidels.
     
  15. Sitka

    Sitka viajera

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    If you believe anything you read in the mainstream news, you're a sheep.

    If you believe everything you read on www.imaparanoidmoron.com, you're a discerning consumer of the truth.

    Am I doing this right?

    Even the local rags that refuse to acknowledge the existence of Israel still admit that ISIS exists.
     
  16. farmout

    farmout All who wander arent lost Lifetime Supporter

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    Basically an excuse to expend more of our weapons so they can keep on buying more so our economy won't tank.......
     
  17. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the whole "terrorist" thing, beginning in 2001 does. 2001 was organized and instigated be a krystal knoct. to manufacture consent for these wars that do not reduce 'terrorism', but exist primarily if not entirely to create it.

    when russia abondond its pretense of (pseudo) marxist ideology, the loss of the dear enimiy, was the loss of war mongers' and war profiteers' 'reason d'etire'.
    in short, the world at peace earth stood on the brink of, by the turn of the millinium, was something they simply could not tollerate.

    so, just as db cooper manufactured consent for all this 'security' apparatus at airports and other sorts of major transport termini, 9-11 manufactured consent for this perpetual state of war the u.s. has been visiting on the planet ever since.

    yes its an echo of 'the red scare' even as that, was an echo of hitler's manufactured excuse to invade poland.
     
  18. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    So you believe one propaganda but not the other. All the stuff you're posting is second-hand information .... just like everyone else here. None of us have any first-hand knowledge about the events in question.

    The video could also appear to be faked because the so called executioner (the british guy) doesn't do any executing. He simply doesn't have the stones for it. Cutting of someones head is not a single-cut thing like in the movies but takes a lot of effort, strength and resolve.
    Something I have heard quite a few times over the past years is that most arab groups don't even do beheadings themselves. If they absolutely need one they call the Yemenites who are quite famous for this stuff. Which could be why Jihadi John just fakes it: he hands over to the real guy after the cut. You can actually see in the video that he is doing it completely wrong - he is just holding the victims chin instead of pulling upwards and back.

    If this really was a hollywood production they could have done much better than that stuff.
     
  19. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    not entirely, but in a way you're close.

    independent media doesn't pretend to be completely unbiased,
    but it will tell you what corporate media spikes.
     
  20. Sitka

    Sitka viajera

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    I was being facetious.
     

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