Does the USA have a responsibility to help the Iraqis?

Please read post #68.

 

If the Iraqi's wanted to bring certain people 'to justice' they would say so, wouldn't they?

'The American way' wtf? lol.
Sure, not too much of a simplistic characterisation of events is it?

 

Thank you. I highly appreciate your perspective and assessment!

 

I'm shocked!

 

A little naive there, don't you think (deh)? Do you also believe that as soon as they said such a thing, it would be on the front pages of the national newspapers and on the evening news. Tell me you don't believe they haven't said such a thing simply because the MSM didn't report it to you.

 

Don't kid yourself, Odon; Wizard was right on.

 

Sure he was. If you say so.

 

Not because I say so. He's right on because you can't say why he's not.

 

I guess the more mature/adult thing to say is: Everybody is free to have their own opinions.

 

Sticking to the US and UK - what resources have we got from Iraq?

 

Sure. And uncontested opinions are free to stand.

 

Unsubstantiated opinions too. (question asked on previous page)

 

What question are you referring to?

Wizard's assessment is substantial. No one has unsubstantiated it. Do you care to?

 

Sticking to the US and UK - what resources have we got from Iraq?

I don't mean some Iraqi politicians spouting off like some other countries politicians.

Do you remember this:

2013

Civil War Threat In Iraq Rears Its Head Again

The Iraqi security services and the government are being criticised for failing to the stop the trend.

Even Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, acknowledges this fact.

He said: "These daily patterns of car bomb attacks ... daylight, let's say, in Baghdad and other cities is really unacceptable, I mean, for the people of Iraq who have suffered so much, and that is why you see the anger in people's eyes."

"It is the government's responsibility to redouble its efforts, to revise its security plans to contain this wave to prevent that from sliding into sectarian conflict, or war, as I and you witnessed in 2006-2007," he added.

http://news.sky.com/story/1098018/civil-war-threat-in-iraq-rears-its-head-again

 

I was going to quote a few points but the article is short enough that it only takes a few minutes to read. As I recall (though I haven't looked for a link to back this up), the Iraqi govt wasn't really given much of a choice on this deal. We were holding the purse strings for the money they desperately needed to keep their new gov't running and we basically said "Take the deal or we aren't giving you anything"

http://vcnv.org/crude-designs-the-rip-off-of-iraq-s-oil-wealth

 

Odon,

Sounds to me like you need to research the petrodollar issue and its connection to the reason for the illegal invasion of Iraq.

The U.S. has a responsibility to bring its own war criminals to justice for their crimes against humanity. You know, give them a fair trial and show the Iraqis that such justice is a part of the democracy we've gifted them with.

 

That photo you posted, Odon, makes me sick and sad...Of course, I already saw it today on all of the newspaper front pages here....and youheard about the guy got his neck slashed in the middle of the night there.....?
Unreal....talk about real horror and man's inhumanity to man.

 

Wizardofodd

That is from 2005:

'The policy allocates the majority of Iraq’s oilfields – accounting for at least 64% of the country’s oil reserves – for development by multinational oil companies.'

So, in 2014, what percentage of the oilfields is under 'development' by the US and UK? (that being my original point)

 

Oh, good grief, no thank you. > <

I'd rather go through: there were no planes flying into the world trade centres...

Obviously the U.S doesn't think it has any war criminals neither does the Iraqi government.

 

Why the "good grief" Odon? If you don't research the petrodollar issue and its connection to the illegal invasion of Iraq, you'll be ignorant of it, and willfully so.

As far as war criminals go, it was an illegal invasion based on known lies. You know, like when two different groups of inspectors go in and report that there are no weapons of mass destruction, but the Administration insists that there are, and then murder hundreds of thousands of people who were not Saddam Hussein, and displace four million more, only to find out that the inspectors were right in the first place.