Does God Exist?

Sure it is, even if the evidence is a feeling.

 

I mean it is not about the physical proof that other people demand of people with such faith. I think you understood that

 

I didn't assume it.

 

That is a pretty good point. How could you feel anything about nothing at all? -- not saying you are feeling something about nothing at all. But if you're feeling something novel, it must be something.

 

Always happy to clarify.

 

Popularly there isn't much novelty. True novelty is beyond current common apprehension and therefor impossible to express. However by behavior or presence we can say some people are admired for their generosity. In my case I find generosity to be functionally uplifting to myself in terms of psychic/physical health as well as materially beneficial to those with less. So that's the something for me. Freely giving of what you have is not the commercial lesson we are given in life as we are taught to compete and protect what is ours.

 

Christianity has become quite diluted since the 1st century and what Jesus taught. Paganism and the human need to manipulate said teachings to suit thier own needs. Chrstendom is blood guilty in so many ways.

 

since spirit is energy within form , the faithful sailor will give the sailboat a name . she's
a good boat , maybe in bad shape or not , still , always a good boat right unto the moment
we sinks together .

Good God ! a boat !

The most curious energetic form I have ever seen appeared as a geometry in the sky ,
of lines and angles , light and depth . Spiritually , it was smiley like the glory of hippie .
We were headed in the same direction I s'posed - a Grandpa Woodstock , his retinue ,
and this tikoo who is this light .

an existence excessively organized about form will fail . it sinks like a rock , stupidly .

 

I mean it's novel as in it's unique. It may be an every day experience, but I don't think it's widely recognized as such. People aren't like, "Oh that's just my sensation of experiencing God."

I guess other people would argue that experience of God ought to be universal, if it is true. It's funny that you say it makes you giving. I think I've experienced a feeling of something greater than myself that has made me want to be generous before. But maybe that something greater is just the good of the whole human race and not God.

 

The good of the whole human race ? even wholistic humanism is a speck , a spoot , and a p .
Still , our one community voice is worthy of contemplation and artistic definition .

 

It seems christianity was not a solid thing in the 1st century. The religion was still in development. The teachings of Jesus are just the teachings of Jesus. I guess through many translations and interpretations they're probably diluted to a certain extent indeed. It seems they're sometimes open for interpretation as well.

Imo this thread topic is bigger than christianity or religion. It is about God(s). Your post would have better suited in a thread abou religion like 'all religions are false' for example.
It is understandable of course that we cross over on the subjects of gods and religions in the same thread but when we are doing that in both I sometimes have the feeling I am posting in the wrong thread myself

 

I think it's logical to assume that we are part of the universe. So to study ourselves in a sense is studying the universe. One thing that I've notice is things tend to be replicated. Whether it's the spiral of a galaxy to the spiral of a shell on the beach. If one can accept this than a replication of an intelligence on a larger scale isn't too outlandish imo. I mean we just didn't pop out of nowhere.

 

This is good reasoning, I understand what you are saying.

However There are transmutable qualities to the universe which don't necessarily make pattern reliant observations reliably static.

In your example, you use the evidence in objects, which feature (roughly) similar shapes, as evidence of a replicative process of the universe but what if we consider a cone shape shell and an elliptical galaxy? The objects no longer feature the replicative qualities.

If we cannot rely on the objects as evidence, do the patterns themselves exist in some type of Platonian ultimate form? Interesting for a philosophical discussion but seems as if it removes us from the observational universe.

 

Thinking about patterns...i think of fingerprints...no two people have the same fingerprints. I am not sure how that applies, but it does somehow....and i think that is a good thing really....there are distinctions.

 

Would a clone have the same fingerprints as the one being cloned? Hmmmmmmm
I do not know the answer to this question.
I will never let myself be cloned anyway....but a question nevertheless.

 

It is interesting how we recognize patterns: i.e there are no triangles in this image.

 

and no circles, either....

 

Oh yes there is! Because when I view this with a magnifying glass, I see that the color pixels on my monitor are stacked together---each one in a triangular shape.

...But that's strange-----I have never seen a monitor like that... Wait a minute---this monitor just disproved guerrilabedam's argument in a thread about the existence of God. Does that mean I alone have the one computer that is connected to God???!!!!

I must test this odd hypothesis---some grand and incredible event that I cause-------let's see, I could change the weather... No, that is to open to chance----I'd have to do it in some other very impossible manner.

Hmmmmmm... The East Coast has had a very mild and warm winter this year-----what if I was to command God, through this computer, to go back in time and blanket the East Coast with lots of snow! Yes! That's what I will do!!!

 

I'm trying to identify a sensation that might be confused for a direct experience of God.

Supposedly time doesn't exist, as well. If you think of everything as eternal, like perhaps we are just a record being played, who knows what shape things really take? Maybe we all just spiral away.

 

I think that is respectable . To touch and speak the unified human mind is harmony , of the
positive god feeling , and of sublime revelation . One way it has been said to me , ' You pray
for all peoples .' Or as a passive and receptive feeling - you are home , in peace , and every-
where welcomed home .

The harmony is pretty wild though . The dynamic is passionate .