Does God Exist?

i used to know how to play that. one of my favorites from that time.

fog is a cloud too, when its sitting on the ground. just the same thing that a cloud is.

 

i don't believe in worship, because i don't believe in trusting fear. but i do believe in things that are neither physical nor imaginary, being at least capable of existing.

i just don't see any desire to be feared nor worshiped, as anything other then a weakness of moral character.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hxa3oqD10

 

The crutch of your assertion seems to be that no matter how much knowledge we accumulate, even if we knew all the energies and matter of the universe, that we can still entertain something(s) existing which are not physically accessible to us.

There is no way to disprove that but it is not illogical to suggest otherwise, I don't think.

 

In order to create good, you don't need to be omnipotent, and in order to be omnipotent, you don't need to create good.

But if you are omnipotent, you really can't be judged accurately by any but the worst that you have ever done or ever created (or, will create).

There may be mysterious reasons to not create something however good. As for mysterious reasons for creating shitty stuff? What a crock of shit, this is where the "then why call him god" bit comes into play.


Arguing on the (bankrupt) assumption that there could be a god, I ain't taking shit from a cosmic bully - hit him back, until he spills his guts about his parents divorce.

 

Suit yourself. I've come to the conclusion that if there is a God (and I think there is), (S)he is objectively the source of the laws of physics and/or the sum of meaning and human idealism. In either case, it seems ridiculous to me to bitch about God, just as it's ridiculous to bitch about the weather. God can serve as a focal point for meaning and high ideals and actions, in which case God is a useful concept.

 

Folks claim to see jesus in this cloud formation...lol...





Hotwater

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz7BgxrVmiQ

Recently they have been talking about a new type of cloud formation Undulatus Asperatus. Some of the online pictures are stunning.

 

Just like 'good', shitty stuff is also often dependant on perspective. Not that there's some stuff we all agree on that it's shitty. But that God has got to be a cosmic bully because God created a universe with both humans and for example cancer is jumping to conclusions. Not sure how serious roorshack is in that post..

 

I think to find it fairly disgusting that someone has an idea is taking upon the self the role of thought policeman, jury, and judge. It is only fair by virtue of your judgment and what appears to you by virtue of the judgement is not fairness but disgust.

We make all our distinctions by virtue of comparison and we are all inherently devoted to our own idea of goodness.

All life is life, The sliding scale of authority of good life bad life is wholly based on subjective comparisons of what you personally value. There is no relative value in real things, no sliding scale of acceptability, all are real and what is not real does not exist.

It is simply not necessary to organize our lives around the concept of good vs, bad.

There is a saying all things are lawful, (all phenomenal things are phenomenal,) but not all things are helpful. Helpful is a matter of timing and circumstance compared with desired aim.

 

I am not enforcing Asmo to think in a particular way, so I am not acting as a thought police and all that.

I am free to express my impressions in regards to what was said to you know...

I didn't bother to read the rest of what you wrote.

 

I said the effect of your own perspective in you is disgust. I said nothing about your effect on him.

Why do you bother to read anything and why wouldn't you bother to read the rest?

Perhaps because you didn't understand even what you commented on but were offended by the vague impression you got from not reading carefully or thoughtfully what is said? If to offend you is what it takes to get you to respond maybe I will start laying it on with that intent. If you want to discuss fairness I think that is fair play considering your dissing me as a matter of ongoing attitude. I take time to reasonably consider what you have said.

What good is god if it doesn't present practical results? What good is your intellect if it can't deal intelligently with your own discomfort? I am not the cause of your attitude.

Your methodical logic means nothing if you lack self or situational awareness.

 

As to cancer. The body is a communication device and cancer is accurate information or true to form. It tells you something about you and it tells us something about us. Cancer research leads to discovery of biological mechanisms. Everything around and in us is information.

 

This is what you said..

I didn't bother to read the rest because I didn't feel the need to. If this causes an issue with you, perhaps you're the one attempting to thought police.

 

It is not necessary to organize our lives on the basis of perceived virtue and that sliding scale distorts our apprehension of real things. To apprehend the world accurately makes you virtuous in your surroundings.

 

I know what I said guerillabedlam but you are taking from it not what is written.

I think to find it ... is what I said, I was examining the idea, I wasn't claiming error and justifying my own disgust. I was pointing out the effects of the thinking. That the disgust comes from the verdict.

You don't feel you need to is not a reflection on motive, you said you didn't bother. Obviously if you felt the need to do something you would. So how are you determining need here. If we were standing face to face would you just walk away while I was in the process of speaking? Is there something inherently unworthy in my contributions to a conversation?

 

Oops , I hammered that spelling with a passion . Fullfillment . The story of god , man , and resurrection attained
its maturity . Since then , it is told by the Winnebago ... a man with ears like a rabbit was seen walking on the water of
Lake Superior and he came along into a village . The rabbit man was cheerily welcomed and there was much pipe-ceremony
and feasting for three daze .

 

The iconic buddha has long ears like lotus petals

 

I'm not sure what I'd do to be honest, it's difficult for me to imagine you express the same persona irl as on the forums.