Does God Exist?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Naiwen, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    when no authority is commonly acceptable only then can there be
    an uncoerced consensus . then what ? then appears the sign of divine
    blessing . then what ? then rational action may proceed . it might but
    conveniently seem logical to do it .
     
  2. thedope

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    We share our thoughts as a fact. This affects my reasonable responses but there is no coercion only a recognition of our shared authority.
     
  3. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    thedope:

    No. There is no 'if' to your having, being, your body. God exists for, because of, those who want it to. You don't think we create ourselves, but 'creatively' inherit ourselves. You are not currently fit to create beyond yourself, believing there is something non-physical.


    tikoo:
    Don't hold your breath! Our own authority has always been commonly acceptable to ourselves. Let it become uncommonly acceptable! :-D
     
  4. thedope

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    If then is a logical proposition. No sensory apparatus, no sensation. The body is a communication device.


    Don't be obstinate.
     
  5. Anaximenes

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    Is that for evolution or for involution? Just interested in the "fact" theorem from which expert deduction. All I have at this point is theism for what expertise.
     
  6. thedope

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    Our facts or appearances are agreements and in this venue our agreements are recorded in a repository of agreed definitions including the harmonic synonyms and discordant antonyms
    Deity is specifically supernatural. I love nature the way it it is becoming to us. It is divine, that is excellent or delightful and not at all frightful.
     
  7. Anaximenes

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    Agreed definitions? The teacher of those definitions has to be some fixhead. The a priori knowledge in the Meno (Plato) has to have some feature of knowing more than the teacher deceives us over.

    The education system lied.
     
  8. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    No, the body is its own intelligence, its own communication, it evolved the mind to evolve itself. Your proposition for disembodied consciousness is unintelligible.
     
  9. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    sounds cheery enough . hmmm... have you usurped a magical plurality ? glug
    glug

    +.^.
     
  10. Dejavu

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    Not today, the common consensus being that it's illegal for me to do so!

    To do so openly before the law means my abduction, my being forced asleep, and my stomach pumped.
     
  11. thedope

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    I've made no such claim. I have said the breath comes and goes from the body. No breath no bodily animation. Consciousness is not breath or spirit but is for finding direction and we always choose with a guide. Mind is the communication of breath and body and breath provides the combustible gas for metabolism. Our only reality is spirit, breath. The heart is not the mind and the heart feels only what the mind tells it to but the heart being an organ of rhythm gives pace to our endeavors. The body is a biological machine, a communication device. An undercarriage for the will or probable emergence.
     
  12. thedope

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    That is not how education works. Unless you become as little children.
    We grow in the understanding of each other and our definitions are reflected in usage and we develop new words constantly. We teach as we learn and learn as we teach.
     
  13. nunnies

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    I believe that there is a God. I admit that I could have been brainwashed; I don't know why I believe that there is a God, but I do believe there is.

    I don't know Who or What God is but I believe that God is good and all-powerful.

    nunnies
     
  14. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    An undercarriage! LOL! No, you are smitten with the notion of a one and only! The universe won't, can't, spit you from its infinity for this affront, but it will grind you down to make its bed! I'm almost tempted to say you should be placed under cardiac arrest until you wake from your stupor! :-D
     
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    Actually, as gods go, the god of this particular realm is average--give or take a degree. All-powerful? Sure, compared to humans, I suppose, but then, what god isn't? The truth is, at god conventions, he doesn't really stand out.
     
  16. thedope

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    I don't understand. I seem to be smitten by a word smite and I didn't even have to send out an invitation. They are in fact numerous and full of opinion about things they want to see gone. Never occurs to them to change their minds as they would rather ban carriages lest someone be conveyed in a fashion they can't appreciate by virtue of their profound narcissism. If you can't love me no else should either and if the universe had any taste it would spit me out...

    Yet another crusader wanting to rearrange or keep the world in proper proportions. At least via electronic keystroke or abstractly. If your eye were acute the whole body would be full of light. How do I offend the universe as to deserve old age. You won't be able to keep the band together if you arrest the drummer. Agree to terms and we are symphonic as opposed to cacophonic. Meaning is not physical, does not appear in the world save through insight which certainly appears to be contained but obviously is not. The I am I call myself is the same I am you call yourself and your physical contraption Icarus, will not allow you to rise to the occasion. If only you had recognized your winged spirit had already ascended.
     
  17. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    A cornerstone of science is the postulate f = ma put forth by Newton. This is his law of motion. This is one of many postulates that science is based on.

    A postulate is a formula that is so basic that you cannot break it down any further. The problem is, a postulate is assumed to be true. There is no way to prove or disprove a postulate.

    the toughest problem in this case is that m represents the inertia of mass. But we cannot really explain what inertia is, and why mass is inherently filled with inertia. It would take a lot more force to push a bulldozer than it would to push a marble. But what if we were in deep space where the pull of gravity to any large objects is very small? Why would a bulldozer be harder to push?

    It seems common sense, yet we cannot prove or disprove that f = ma. Or any other such postulate.

    Wait a minute!!! Oh my God! All of our science is nothing more than superstitious silliness---we have deceived ourselves with the myths of a false religion: science!

    Esse est percipi Existence is perception!
     
  18. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    lol You think you're not your body, so deal with it. Those who know we're our bodies won't charge you with blasphemy.

    Agree to terms?! Loving them is enough! You would level all terms to arrive at your "non-physical" meaning, hypocrite. Insight is not contained because it is embodied. If your vision is clearer than my own, speak out! Speak straight! Soar and draw mine up to your own! But... you think we're not our bodies.
     
  19. thedope

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    What is the same is the same and what is different is different and not the same.
    Doesn't matter to my thinking what you think I think and the only blaspheme we cannot recover from is the blaspheme against the good or holy spirit in men!
     
  20. thedope

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    Minds join, bodies touch.

    whose...
     

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