Does God Exist?

ginalee:

I don't believe that. If you know what music is, if you can listen, you're in!

No exclusive dancers club either. If you want to dance, it's on!

:-D

About Skin'ead O'connor, I like her, and her voice, though her songs aren't really my thing. lol

 

Why is that so hard for you to believe? I have zero artistic talents, skills, gifts or abilities. I can't dance, don't dance and dancing disturbs me .. except for that one year when I was in kindergarten.

Mental dancing (back and forth exchanges with people) is a different sort of thing. I'm fated to it whether I want to be or not.

 

You like music. :-D

No-ones pushing you to be a musician if you don't want to be one!

 

it is simply not knowable whether one or more gods or god like beings DO exist.

there's no reason to assume it or they can't. just even less, to expect them or it to resemble, what any existing belief claims.

oh yes there is a song for this day. it is the song of the seventh fire.

the important question isn't whether there is a god, because it is up to us, whether there is one or many or none. not up to us if they exist. i mean up to us what we do. what kind of world happens because of what we do.

 

Life has devotion so that it lives. We are devoted to authority, rightness, good, god, that we may have life more abundantly.

I claimed only useful purpose. Better than listening to you apologize time after time spending time on the sorry ass when there are better things to do like get it right.

Who else are you oh your succinctness?

I guess you should have been somebody else.

I think we live for and with each other. We talk to each other for some reason. You offer that my speech needs therapy when you are the one who keeps stuttering. Makes me think you need more training then.

Understanding is secured through imagination.

What is humble about the ground?
New does not mean unique. You are a copy albeit you were once newly minted and now you are here negotiating your value. Ever vain Dejavu that's what leaves you wanting. Clamor ahead but I tell you everything is all ready here.

 

The delusion is strong in this one.

 

For some people, it is certainly probable. For others, not so much. Some people do seem to have an innate gravitation toward unrealistic notions whereas others never gravitate toward those inclinations whatsoever. It certainly leads credence to the fact that not everyone innately knows a god.

 

Grow a backbone?

One fact I have learned from years of forum discussions is that personal beliefs are not above reproach.

One is always going to encounter negativity on the internet. To hope otherwise is illogical and unrealistic. The best course of action is to think water off a duck's back and trudge forward. Never allow others to see your weaknesses.

 

If you are going to draw why not a blueprint for success. I don't think there are people around here who know you well enough to truly hate you. We experience our own nervous system's response to stimuli so along these lines only your own thoughts can hurt you.

 

Reflecting on the supposed quality of these responses because whereas they may speak for themselves, they do not answer for themselves!

Where is your proof for non existence, i. e. you know that the easter bunny does not exist. As I pointed out before and which you either missed or otherwise refused to take up, If proof is the standard then lack of proof can't be the standard. You are claiming lack of evidence as proof while demanding evidence as proof.
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False:
There is documented evidence of god , right here in bold. I doubt there is evidence for the god you believe in that you say doesn't exist.

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There you go, god exists as a concept for one. No concept exists outside the mind. We apply concepts do direct action and this is part of our creative estate.

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Not synonymous to the words she said at all but rather you express your belief about what she said. She didn't say suspend all reason, she said if you want to know find out.

 

then the fact of it shall not be verified , and yet my understanding shall
not fail .

i notice that your writing has improved some this year .

 

That is mere evidence of a concept, and not evidence that there exists a real being referred to as god.

 

It is not about proof unless the burden of proof is placed onto someone. So I guess you can bother a spiritual person about his beliefs asking for proof and evidence when they are trying to convey an evangelical message to you, the burden of proof is then upon them.
To repeatedly reply in a conversation (that started with the inquiry what our personal beliefs about gods and their existence are) with 'prove it or else it is bogus' is useless, lame and a bit childish imo. Especially for a theology student. We know your stance after the first time

 

All the activity around god is phenomenological . The problem in discerning what is going on here is one of communication as there are so many definitions which have fundamental differences from each other being discussed as though they were one thing.

Standard definition from the roots of our common experience and thus the forms our language takes, god is that which we invoke.

God then is the standard of good or the authority, or judge, as in god created man and saw that it was good, very good. Man does this thing created in his own likeness or degree of likability in the same way it has come into being.

I agree in the sense that what we do relies on our invocation.

 

My logic or my argument isn't this religious argument you describe.
My logical argument is god is that we invoke and you haven't addressed that argument at all except to agree with it in part without realizing you are doing so

And every bit the evidence that I claim god to be and like I said there is no documented evidence for the god you believe in. If you still don't understand, the god you believe in is described in bold above.

 

Note the situation in your caricature. Person A made an assertion. Person B was then entitled to proof. You seem to be unable to grasp the point that if person A doesn't make an assertion, there is no need for proof. If a believer or an atheist says: "There is/is not a God", then that person should provide convincing evidence or shut up. If a person says I believe/don't believe in God, that person is simply stating what they believe and are in the best position to know whether or not they really do. Of course if people keep going around simply proclaiming their beliefs or disbeliefs , others might legitimately say "So what?" or "who cares?". And if the person keeps it up, coupled with lots of disparaging rhetoric about those who believe otherwise, as you do, others are entitled to say even stronger things. E.g., the thread you added in the Christian Forum Is Christianity the source of modern psychological warfare' simply posted an ad for a conference given last year, with no supporting facts or arguments. Do you have an obligation to do so? Not necessarily, since it's not really an assertion. Should you be expected to explain what it's supposed to mean, or why you put it there? That seems reasonable. If I opened a thread entitled: "Are Atheists Evil? or "Did Christopher Hitchens Have Sex With Mother Teresa''? and left it at that, I'd expect to get some flack. People would think I'm a troll.
BTW, you've also made the assertion that you're a theology student. Yet we have no proof, no evidence, nor even an answer to a question what you meant by that assertion. And I did ask. Have you been to seminary?

 

It should never be the goal of humanity to believe in that which cannot be supported without evidence.
Rather, humanity should strive to always seek the truth that can be substantiated by evidence.

our idealist has faith that humanity has a purpose . it shall
be governed by the ideal authorities and they will define the
truth that is allowed to be and to be saught conditional to
the facts they approve for presentation as well those deemed
injurious to the ideal purpose and suppressed .

 

Sounds good to me. But let's apply it across the board, and not use a double standard.

 

apply what ? divine anarchy perhaps .

 

Can't rep you again, but
nail on the head...:2thumbsup: