Does God Exist?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Naiwen, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. guerillabedlam

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    Great responses! +1
     
  2. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    That's not a great response. He's talking about the Easter Bunny which goes to show his mentality and the level of his knowledge.

    The Easter Bunny certainly does exist. Everybody knows exactly what it is.

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    The Easter Bunny is a creation. It is a symbol for what it means and represents.

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    Somebody created Puff the Magic Dragon. And Puff's creator had a basis in reality for her creation, as all creation has a basis in reality .. including Myths.
     
  3. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    lol

    Children have their first awakening around 5 years old when they realize that their parents are not God (not all knowing, not perfect .. they make mistakes .. not all powerful .. they cannot do everything). So what condition were they in before they had their first awakening? Pure.

    By the way, Okie .. not lolling at you. I'm laughing at babies don't have "isms".
     
  4. ginalee14

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    Was there a song?
     
  5. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    it is still to appear and i am such a one who may give it
    in as an old father of this land has prepared me . just
    for now , we are planting corn together on the prairie .

    the rainbow around the sun ... oh , this is of the most high
    places and just as spring arrives there . Nevada perhaps -
    rainbow time time , within the blooming .
     
  6. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Okiefreak:
    Organisms too? Babies don't believe in god.

    thedope:
    We're talking about a position with regard to god thedope.

    As often as I hear you speak it.

    Nowhere, and yet I'm not everyone. It's a miracle.

    If you can speak to me, I hear it.

    No, memory isn't selective forgetting. It is true you need do nothing thedope.

    I asked what it is you're not telling us, your verdict being that the mind is being denigrated.

    You're not tied down to your lie you know.

    Everything's physical.

    ginalee:
    Please accept my apology. The words I call theists are only teasing terms, I love people no matter what they've come to believe.

    We're our bodies. That is what I want to say, what I've said, and it is fact as sure as I'm alive. All thought is embodied. Beauty is more valuable than maturity.
     
  7. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    idealistic truth will require you name it as a God , and
    that god will be the only one conflicted . go ahead - do
    this terrible thing . articulate the name at least .
     
  8. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Tikoo:
    :) No, not a god, but it will require I name it as my own. As creators we live. As gods, we only play at being ourselves.

    Here's a song I heard on the radio yesterday. Cold and dark in scotland? lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7UmjvbmHQM"]Young Fathers - GET UP - YouTube
     
  9. ginalee14

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    They're not the same, thedope. lol

    If the option was called mute or silence, I'd say "I'll mute you" or "I'll silence you". If the option was called hush, I'd say "I'll hush you". I could also say, like a sterile robot: "I will use the feature that exists for a reason and a purpose". Well what is the reason and the purpose, anyway? I don't know about others but I'm allergic to destructive negativity. Some people LIKE verbal war. I don't.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    None other Dejavu. What is devotion for? What is god for?



    Perception is your nervous systems response to stimulus. Your mind is endowed with the sense to make sense of things. You always choose with a guide. I claim no lie. It is from you that any suggestion of lying comes from and they are your gift to me.



    You are not apart from anyone being here, how miraculous indeed.



    Only if you agree, otherwise you are relying on your own associations to process what is being said.

    Perhaps more precision in expression or is it a lack of ongoing attention that causes you to regroup?



    The thought comes first.
    Not your understanding.

    In maturity we recognize beauty is only skin deep. You fall into a trap of an excited thinker that distracts called allurement, enamored of your own brightness. Yes dear, you shine and you would shine on us all but your brightness is absorbed in the light of the sun and being so wholly engulfed would cause a little more gratitude in you.
     
  11. ginalee14

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    I don't call myself a theist. I don't call myself a Christian. I don't call myself much of anything. I call it "thinging" people and it's something I'm not too fond of. It's actually related to the "I AM" phenomenon. After having been "you you you'd" to death, people begin the "I AM" journey (knowing for themselves who, how, what and why they are).

    Beauty is a high value for much of the world right now. I'm hideously ugly, lead me to the gas chamber immediately! lol just kidding
     
  12. thedope

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    So communicate instead. If you wish to rid yourself for all time of destructive negative energy then recognize if you defend yourself you are already attacked whether there be an actual threat or not. The measure give is the measure you receive is a conditional arrangement. We begin by resisting the temptation to accusation or offense whenever it arises in our quest for peace. You frequently shoot yourself in the foot for no good reason but for some sort of paranoia.
     
  13. ginalee14

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    Have you ever read Sinead's account of how she makes her music? She's a musical Goddess, as far as I'm concerned. The musicians are the Angels. Some of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkCXQBY4q7w"]Sinead O'Connor - All Babies - YouTube
     
  14. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    thedope:
    Devotion? Life. The second question you'll have to answer for yourself.

    You've claimed a purpose for error. lol

    Let me put it to you this way, sire. I simply can't claim all being for myself. :-D

    Forgive me, your grace. I should have written "If you can speak to me, I can hear it."

    Does it matter to you? You think we don't create ourselves.

    And it was yours.

    No, my understanding is physical. The dichotomy is in your imagination.

    Only?! Well, everything is its appearance! In maturity we give to intelligence what it deserves. If there was nothing new under the sun, you'd find me as humble as the ground you're stumbling over, your dopeship. :-D


    ginalee:
    I tend to think anyone can be a musician, without even having to do anything. Listening helps. :-D
     
  15. Monkey Boy

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    The default position is reception.
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    This is true for religion. But the question is, are babies born with a spiritual inclination, of which many religions take an advantage thereof?
     
  17. Dejavu

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    Please don't edit our posts Meagain! Let's be free!
     
  18. ginalee14

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    The people will be conflicted. Some of them.

    God, also called Most High. Most High is understanding, which surpasses knowledge.

    One can know something but not understand it but when you understand something, you cannot not know what you understand.

    If there were a ladder, understanding is Most High. Understanding is the God level and Peace is the prize. Confusion, chaos, discord is a lack of understanding .. lack of peace.

    Do people in the United States still recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools? If the Pledge of Allegiance is an American ideal, this part .. "One nation, under God" .. means that God is Most High, higher above.

    From wiki,
    He says the Pledge of Allegiance is a spiritual weapon. Imagine that!

    We really, truly are in a spiritual war AND a psychological "psyops" war. Part of the war is to DENY the reality of those things.

    Anyway, I don't know if the Pledge of Allegiance is still recited or if it is, which version (there are 5 according to wiki). The United States has been removing God for decades and as a result we have Alex Jones prison planet and endless conspiracies, wars on nearly everything, terror and terrorism, human rights violations, lawlessness, militant police, biochemical warfare, energy weapons, gang stalking and targeted individuals (global phenomenon), severe epidemic mental illness and .. America as a company, not a country .. and all sorts of terrible things falling upon the U.S.

    Tonight, the world sits beneath the Cardinal Grand Cross above our heads in the cosmos. But why bother to read the signs?

    One of my favorite ideals of all time is the preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America.

    We don't exactly have these things. Domestic tranquility? Ah, NO! We have domestic violence. If only Eisenhower could've seen 50 years into the future ..


    Well, tikoo .. I'm not sure if this is the sort of response you were looking for. What's God, any name of God, got to do with anything at all? Sigh...

    Allah means all, by the way. You know, the whole. The collective. The all of everything. That's what Allah means. And that's why Muslims want *ALL* the world to be Muslims. They will never get their way, no matter what. But that is what Allah does mean. The total, all-encompassing whole. But Catholic has their own version since Catholic means all-encompassing (or something like that).

    YHWH means why.

    Why is the only question that can bring understanding. A good question is a God Quest!

    Q & A

    haha

    Do all people understand God?

    NOPE.

    Will the people of the world ever experience a time of unity, for the purpose of knowing and understanding God?

    Gee, I sure do hope so! Or else 9/11 will have been a failed emergency call.

    Glory? Is that you? Hello, Glory? Are you there?

    Ye got the name backwards, ye fools! God is not a dog. Or a cat. Or a pig. Or an animal.

    God is.

    Just is.

    "God's work isn't done by God it's done by people" ~ Ani DiFranco

    Pop Quiz: What's a Higher Calling?
     
  19. ginalee14

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    I'm in no denial, thedope. There are people around here who do truly hate me. They can dislike me all they want but I draw the line at destructive negativity.
     
  20. ginalee14

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    I can't be a musician. There's lots I can't be .. like, president of the United States of 'murica.

    But anyway, Sinead O'Connor is considered to be somebody worth listening to. I don't think she sells God for a profit, entirely absent of belief and devotion. In fact, I know she's quite spiritually blessed.
     

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