does god exist?

It always has seemed so unlikely to me that a being that is "all powerfull" (whatever that's supposed to mean) or even , say, just as powerful as, say Superman, maybe, could be so pathetically neurotic that he/she/it would care at all about silly humans worshiping/not worshiping he/she/it. It's like me getting pissed at an ant hill because the ants aren't all living the way groove thinks ants should live and attending the ant church of groove every Sunday.

 

Maybe that's just how we see God, or how we thought about God when we knew less of the world.. That a lot of people nowadays don't seem to buy into a religion anymore does not mean a godlike thing doesn't exists at all. I think some of you see God as a far too narrow concept. How would we know what God is? That it's not a humanlike creature seems pretty logical indeed.

 

I agree. It really isn't other concepts that seem so untrue to me as the idea of God as the human entity the Bible, taken in a literal context makes "him" out to be. I personally don't like to call what i believe in "God" because that is generally taken to mean the "him", but i believe that the universe has an intelligent aspect....how can i not? but to believe that that intelligence is listening to and answering prayers and things like that seems to be assuming way too much about something no one can really ever know hardly anything about..

That sig pic is WAY cool btw!

 

Thanks!

Yeah, to refer to God as a 'him' seems already pretty backwards to me.

 

'Him' is just a term used to help write about God ... it's just a shortcut. It's not like everyone uses 'him', uses it because they think of God as a male or a person.

For example, the book title, Mans Search for Meaning, man isn't used to mean gender, but humanity as a whole.

Many scientists don't like the idea of a creator, so cosmologists go back to the drawing board whenever they're faced with this fact; a fact that they were faced with two times already. It's becoming a little annoying - I guess they just don't like the answer.


I sometimes feel that scientists are more interested in their own ideas, more so than finding the truth.

I also hate the creationism vs evolution wars - This isn't a competition... there shouldn't be an, 'us versus them' mentality. It should just be US searching for the truth - that's it.


P.S. I don't mean what I say to be an attack on scientists or even science itself. I deeply respect the pursuits that many scientists undertake. I just can't take the sheer near-sightedness that many scientists exhibit. It's like a horse wearing a reign, and can't see left or right of himself, only straight ahead.

 

It's not human-like, yet the "civilized" world wants to portray it as such, as if suffering opens the gates to heaven.

The idea that any diety is human-like is ridiculously arrogant on our part. God is in all of us and in all matter, all consciousness, not necessarily human. God doesn't judge us.

Nice avatars.

 

Although i believe we are all energy and have power and will over our own fate, i do believe there is a spirit watching over us. i woudnt call him/her/it god or any name, but just a power or force.

 

Real Vermonters don't believe anyone ever goes to heaven by talking. They don't call on God unless they need him. This may be sloppy theology, but it's easier on God. He knows that when He hears from them, He's really wanted. I believe religion has mostly to do with respect.

 

god exists as a word
and as a concept, a figment of imagination
but as a long haired hippie dude sittin on a cloud?
nah i doubt that

 

yes

 

I don't understand the need to personify God when you are/ I am that personification all over this planet. Want to see God? Look around. Not perfect? Then your not looking at it right.

 

I believe God is born out of the fear that life is all there is. That's humanities problem, we have the ability to think about the future and realise that we will die. God offers a way that we can convince ourselves that there's more. Which is why I like Buddhism to a degree. They realise this, and infact I think one of Buddha's quotes is that "Gripped by fear men go to the sacred mountains, sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines"

 

I'm still on the fence on this issue...
I went to a Catholic school pretty well my entire life, (though didn't pay a whole lot of attention during Religion class) My family never went to Church unless it was school related.
I still am Catholic, but I do question whether there is a God and whether or not the God I was taught in school is the one I should believe in or even real.

I guess all-in-all you could say I'm agnostic.

 

Definitely. Respect, dignity, empathy, love, awareness, I could go on, but the point is all religions have the same characteristics at their core, and it's these characteristics that are important, not the particulars. The bummer is when controlling assholes use religion to promote their oppressive agendas. Then there are those who use religion as a means to face the fear of the unknown, which is death. Imagine living your entire life thinking about death, kinda sucks, doesn't it.

I've been religious, been a member of a church when I was younger, but I don't see a need for it now. I worship my god every day in how I live, and I assure you, I treat my fellow man better than most Christians...or Muslims...My god responds to actions, not words...

I'm looking around. It's perfect.

 

neither?

 

As soon as you start giving God human attributes, or anything more than something abstract, you've gotten into idolatry. Therefore, no messiah, no "God's will."

I believe in God, but an abstract God without any knowable characteristics. God is there, you've just gotta find or create him/her/it for yourself.
We're not created in God's image...God is created in our image.
I consider myself a Jewish existentialist...
I believe in an incredibly abstract form of monotheism, and that God is infinite, in everything, and unknowable.



When I was eight years old, I was at some Rosh Hashanah thing and I told the rabbi: "Why should I be here. I dont even believe in God."
I'll never forget what he said in response: "Do you want to make the world a better place? Then you believe in God."
That's a beautiful statement.

 

i don't believe in god. i'm atheist.
<3 rainbow love!

 

yes i beleive in god. i also beleive in the bible, but i dont beleive in the church...there is too much coruption there

 

im an antiestablishmentteriumist, i dont beleive in organized religeon either

 

I believe there is something out there that created us. So I call it "creator" not "God". The bible is too full of contradictions to believe in, even it's acronym which you could put many different words into like "believe in beelzebub's large ebb's". And it's followers are like obsessive people who don't know what's going on so they try to make the bible true because they don't know what else to believe in. Lost people who made multiple clans but let's turn clans into "fans" of a book. Religion...HA! Any idiot can tell that religions are full of shit...unless you are of course, the idiot who is ignorant. There are over 200+ religions in the world all claiming to hold the "truth". I guess it just depends on which truth you want to pick, which "clan of fans" do you feel most comfortable with. Lastly for now because I could go on and on about the falsehoods of the bible...well like all say, "were you there?" Which leads to faith...how can you believe that God is all loving when he, she, or it created such a miserable masterpiece of angered people who fight each other for what they believe in? I believe that "God" is a man created name and it's destructful, full of fear being put into people. So if you believe in all this mumbo jumbo that's being taught in religion...who else wants all that fear? Who wants hate, anger, war? Satan they all would say. I think whoever the "creator" is created "God" and "Satan". So I believe there is a power above all this.
So as I end this rant, this is my opinion, believe it or not, I don't care. My purpose is not to offend as usual. And as always you will believe in whatever you want to believe as you always have.