does god exist?

100% agreed, I don't like how people try to sometimes force religion on others. That's exactly why I don't belong to any particular religion.

 

not any more. if by "god" you mean some form of theism.
the theist god is now dead. we live now in a godless world.
the theist god most likely died somewhere around the 18th. century.


we now live in a deist world and, in this world the deist god of nature lives.
the theist god of supernaturalism is now dead.
we all soooooo much better off now that the theist god is dead!

 

The one true God I believe in is an immortal being whom created the universe and cannot die.

 

the "one true god." the pages of all of human history are soak red with blood by those whom have claimed they have "the one true god."

to "believe" means to accept as fact that which has not or cannot be proven. just because one belives something does not prove it is so.

immortality means living for a long time or forever.
forever means for all of time.
life/living is a biological process; when that process ends, life/living ends.
immortality and forever ends when time ends.

the universe is a fact of nature. just because the universe exist does not mean a "supernatural force" created it.
the universe arose out of nothing.
physics has proven that nothing is something.
both nothing and something are facts of nature.
the universe was created by natural processes which, are still not fully understood by us as of yet. just because we fully do not understand something, does not mean it is created by "supernatural" processes.

i do not hold "the one truth." i'am still growing and learning about "truth." i have learned this much though, there is no "one truth."

i "belive" only in that that can be proven. when what i "belive" in is proven in error... i then build a new model and test it out, before accepting it.

i may live a long time and i will die too. everything that exist in time dies, no matter how long living it may be.

at this time in my life, the deist god of nature and reason works for me. if someday the deist model of god no longer works then, i will have to roll up my sleeves and start model building again.

this is what my deist god of nature and reason asks of me... to grow up into an intergrated individual and, that, the good is my life, and the good is to live it.

when has theism ever made any pratical changes for life on earth for the better?
none i can think of. it has brought nothing but suffering; no matter what it preaches.

deism has brought us: liberty, medicine, farming, clothing, housing, and so forth.
and, even deism says there is one hell of alot more that needs to be done to make life on earth even better for all forms of life.

 

hi what are you guys talking about?

 

look around..

does this world look like its under the care of a divine being?
if so, he is doing a horrible job..

NOOOOOOOO!!
there is no god..

be realistic, there is no divine being who created every one of us in his own image..

cant believe people still have faith in this primitive form of population control..

 

So you think that if a god would not care actively for this earth it does not exists at all?

 

You obviously have a very 1 dimensional view of god, that if god exists he personally created every living thing and has total and constant control over the universe. Fuck read a bible or something, humans create their own misery, almost every major religion for thousands of years has held firm to the belief of the supreme free will of humans.

I tend to believe a god that could create existence could also create a universe governed by the laws of science that can look after itself pretty well.

And how can you look around and say this couldn't be the work of something divine. God the universe is beautiful. A blazing summer sunset, redwood forests, exotic rain forests, coral reefs with swarms of fish, the northern lights, the sky at night where there's no lights, the serenity of the wind blowing through a field or trees on a warm sunny day. And that's just on Earth, there's all kinds of beautiful things out there in space.

 

i'm sure your not as stupid as that sounds. most likely your a very smart guy.
when you come down from whatever you shot-up or smoked, come back, i'm sure things will make alot better sense then.

 

i'm agnostic, so i'm kinda in the "i don't know. could go either way catagory," but when you think about it, it all seems pretty much unfounded belief in magical fairy tales, so i voted no. too bad though. would be cool if there was really something out there.

 

If there is really something out there, I believe we discover that in the afterlife.

 

lol i just thought it was funny comment to make after all of this candid talk.
i'm reading everything by the way, it's really nice to see what people of my age have in their heads...

 

i think it needs more of an answer than yes or no.do i beleive in the standard christian god... no
but i think the world is such an amazing place that i dont think it is all an accident.

 

I don't believe in any of the gods subscribed by current religions or old mythologies; if you speak of "god" outside the context of religion or a specific type of religion, the word becomes un-defined, thus useless.

Since it is not defined, it is an empty word and it lacks any essence; because of this, the word is used as a referential of anything; what it is used for becomes arbitrary. Because the meaning of the word "god" has no actual public social/culturally set definition, its descriptive usage is private, or rather, personal, i.e. by whim of the individual. So, "conceptions" of a god differ widely. And, so, also, it is difficult to set a standard definition that does not conflict with social applications of the word, since the applications are arbitrary to the individuals (the application is put completely on the whim and control of the individuals) rather than reconciled by societal norm or majority. Because of this phenomena, any proposition of a god made by someone else is useless to me in forming my beliefs, as "god" has so many varying applications from person to person. This phenomena also allows people more freedom for free association, such as associating the fact of existence with the existence of a god.

However, the word always does connote some type of mysticism/supernaturalism as well as status and being, due to its association with religion. So, I decided I would follow the crowd and make my own definition: a "god" is a mystical/supernatural being or status.

And I further narrowed the definition down to a being who has total supremacy over existence or the empirical/materialist realm and is outside that realm whether or not that being in some way is part of or takes part in existence or that empirical/materialist realm. The descriptive word "supremacy" here is used to describe a being who has the empirical/materialist realms holistically subordinate to or dependent on that being extrinsically.

You could say the other definition would be: something of highest value, ability, or power. But I would consider this definition as only of poetic usage or of a metaphoric status, rather than the literal definition (which I think is the first one I provided). My first fixed definition makes the association fixed rather than free, and thus the relevance of information subjectively submitted to support the existence of god becomes determinable. And my fixed definition allows me to detect equivocation.

This very definition and essence of the word "god" makes it something, for me, that you ought not to believe (as I subscribe to rational empiricism or, rather, empirical rationalism epistemically). So I consider myself an agnostic/ignostic atheist, whether or not you call the nasty fungus on your toes "god."

P.S. Hey, Pro-tip, DON'T EVER CONFUSE THE ONTOLOGY OF SOMETHING WITH THE TERMINOLOGY USED FOR IT. (e.g. humans exist whether you call them "humans" or "calakas"; and if you call cats "humans" and humans "cats" that does not mean humans run on all fours, just that you swapped the words around by changing their definition).

 

I believe that Earth is the Mother Goddess and that we are all her children, each and everyone of us is part of a greater whole known as Gaia, and we must work, live, and love together to honor and praise her.

 

On a summer day, sit in the forest with nothing but your mind and body, clear and pure. Listen, look and breathe. God exists.

 

So what about those women and children in Burma getting slaughtered, God exist there too?

 

All beings are children of Gaia, we live to be one with this great undefinable force, it is not Gaia's fault that some of us do evil, nor is it her wish, what we do is our decision and she lets us make these decisions.

 

That's too far out for me man.

 

I think one of the easiest things to understand about God is that even if it was this entity/force/Source that created everything it's not going to solve all our earthly problems. Because people suffer there isn't a higher power/supernatural being? That logic is too far out for me I guess.