Does anyone actually think there ISN'T a conspiracy to keep pot illegal?

I am pretty liberal when it comes to people having choice. But it is when people affect other people via their choice of drug (be it alcohol, crack, meth). Whether through theft to feed the habit, dui and hurting an innocent, or the fentanol/heroin combo that was killing people. People with problems don't always seek help, look at all the alcoholics usually takes a dui for rehab.

Pot is pretty harmless so in the name of _______ (fill in the blank) at least decriminalize it!

 

The American Government is never going to admit that they made a TRILLION dollar mistake on keeping marijuana (or trying to) out of the hands of its people. Fuck America. I'm 100% certain in Canada was not attached to that wasteland, it would be for sale at our local stores. But having such a large boarder on such a powerful and conservative country sucks.

 

and sending someone to jail, will bennifit an "extreamly dangerous and potentially deadly" drug user how?

 

Haha, you mean how like all the alcoholics get help? lol If they were legal more people would die from them because more people would try them.

 

It deters people from using the drug and forces the person that uses the drug to quit using it (atleast while in jail). I view jail as a place to change the bad habits of people. I think that if a profesional can clear the inmate of whatever problems they might have (be they a killer, a drug addict, etc.) then the person should not have to serve out all of their jail time.

 

AHAHAHAHAHA! HOHOHOHO! I am fucking cracking up here! Canada is like Americas little brother. Without us to protect you Canada would be beat up by the bullies of the world. Also, you act as if Canada has no problems. Part of your country wanted to form its own country and was shut down by the government...and I believe there was civil unrest and disputes between the french canadians and the rest of Canada that stemmed from the whole "we wanna be own own country..WHAAAA!" thing, and they still hold a grudge against the rest of the country. Correct me if I am wrong! LOL God the only thing Canada is good for is weed, drinking age, and salmon fishing. No disrespect to Canadians of course! But I would MUCH rather live in the good ole USA.

 

i love your Utopian vision, but thats just not how the world works, sorry. laws don't deter people from doing illegal thing, obviously. jail doesn't keep anybody from doing drugs. ever been to a jail? drugs are commonly used. do you seriously think jails are rehabilitation programs? give me a break! thats not how jails work.

but really thats beside the point. the government is not my babysitter, and should not be able to dictate what i put into my body.

 

Your right, but the government has an obligation to protect it's people. By making it illegal to use drugs they protect people from A. using drugs and doing hamr to themselves B. being harmed by people that use drugs. If drugs were legal many more people would use them, so yes, laws do deter people from using drugs and doing illegal things. They do not deter ALL people from using drugs, but they do deter some people (possibly good ammount of people, I haven't looked at the stats). Also, there are many people who come out of jail rehabilitated. I know people who have been to jail and since then they have done nothing illegal.

 

I always thought that the possesion laws sucked ^ for that reason. But if you were carrying my TV to the pawn shop to pay for the party favors then I'd have an issue.

 

definitely!

 

Jail only ruins lives and causes violent people to become even more desperate and violent, while masking the problem: an unequal distribution of the earth's resources.

 

America isn't protecting us, England if anyone is, we are still part of their empire. America doesn't protect Canada, if we needed nukes, we have the money and the technology to have enough to destroy the planet by tomorrow. It IS America that stops Canada from having legal pot, and thats a well known fact.

As for the other shit you said? I'm pretty sure we're talking about marijuana laws, not talking about what country is more fucked up.

 

Your the one that starte dit by saying shit like fuck America. And I would love to see your "facts" about the US keeping Canada form legalizing MJ. If America holds so much weight as to prevent Canada from passing laws, then it really is like Canada is the little brother.

Jail definetly reforms people (I know people who have been to jail and are now reformed and leading a good, legal life), so that guy holding the chicken, you are wrong. Malcolm X used to be a "hoodlum" and he went to jail, when he came out he was reformed (not to sya he didn't do anything illegal). Ruben "The Hurricane" Carter (a former african-american boxer) was in juvie and jail for a large portion of his life and he didn't do anything illegal after he got out the first time. Hell, even after he was wrongfully imprisoned he still didn't do illegal shit.

 

The reason WHY America keeps Canada from having lot legalized isn't because they say no and we listen. Its because of trade agreements, boarder patrol. Ever gone to Canada? At some parts you wait 3 hours for boarder crossing, can you imagine how fucked up it would be if weed was all over Canada? Millions of fucktard american teenagers would be over in Canada every weekend, and I'm many would try to take weed back. Thats why its only be decriminalized.

 

I've been to Canada more times I can count and I've been past the border in minutes (the longest it ever took was 30 minutes). Your arguement has no facts, just your oppinion. Many American teenagers DO go to Canada and DO try to bring weed back (and many are succesful), so I am not buying ur arguement at all.

Oh BTW I use the same rolling papers that are in your cig! lol

 

No, its your "fucktard" Canadian teenagers. Weed in tons is smuggled across the border as it is. There is no need to buy in Canada. The free trade agreement had jack to do with it. It is also grown in the states in mass quantity and brought in from South America.

The shit hit the fan from all the seed orders sent to the US (which was cool). It made alot of money and that raised the eybrows of the LEO. Before you comment on it - yes the DEA sucks balls.

Decriminalization is a first step to see how it will be accepted and used. Which is still awesome btw.

 

You listed two examples, out of millions of people who've been incarcerated. One of them was a visionary, a very intelligent man. The other was a fighter who possessed exceptional inner strength. Neither of their life stories are indicative of what happens to the average person who is imprisoned. Just because they survived prison alright, without a lot of psychological damage, doesn't mean that most are able to.

 

A lot of people do. You are just brainwashed by the extreme hippy liberal view. I know many people who have reformed, so you honestly don't know what you are talking about. Of course jails could be better, I'm not saying they are great places, but they are places to reform.

 

And how exactly is that any good??? Meth is tons worse than weed...and since weed was legalized before it, all the beth fiends would want their favorite passtime to be legal too. That would just lead to a lot of problem. and why legalize it anyway??? so tobacco companies could make more money off it? more people/pest control with more smoking...

did you know that the reason ciggarettes became legal in 1960s was because governemnts around the world wanted to shorten life expectency by introducing a legal form of poison and getting reich off it?

think about it again...if the gov'ts legalize weed, which is a drug (as 'harmless' as it may be), that would mean that all other POTENTIALLY FATAL drugs should be legal too...i think it is better just kept the way it is, although id love to live in a city like amsterdam...but with all the fucking controversy around pot and all the forces FIGHTING to keep it illegal, i dont think our much anticipated legalization will occur any time soon.

peace,
stay stoned!

 

The quote was for LEO switching from MJ enforcement to meth enforcement.