Do you think people are born gay?

As I believe I already stated DNA has yet to be proven truly relevant in the context of one's sexuality. This is not to say that there is no relevance but we have yet to actually discover any. There are rules to life, as there have always been. Mankind may not love those rules but they must exist in order to maintain balance within our universe. We must die. We must have both male and female in order to procreate and ensure the survival of our species. Yes there are ways to circumvent certain rules. Turkey basters work just fine. Yet without the male component we still cannot have children. Just as without the female. Our nature is to procreate our nurture is to seek fulfilment in sex that we cannot obtain simply through nature.

 

Our traditional moral rules and religious teachings on sex date back to a time when many young people died in epidemics and warfare. A small society could be wiped out, if it didn't crank out babies fast enough. Gay people were doing nothing to help the cause. Those who had that predisposition were punished for acting on it.

Today, our biggest problem is too many people in the world, so we no longer have to put a priority on efficient breeding. Gay is not a problem anymore. The rules need to catch up with reality.

 

I honestly don't know how someone can state that "being born gay is false" without sounding like an asshole. There's too much pain in the world for gay people that say otherwise.

 

Hmmm, wonder if environmental stresses like overcrowding lend to the production of gay offspring to mitigate the population density?
Never thought of gayness in that way, natures own population control.

We need WAY more gay people, lets be straight about those facts.

To answer the OP's question, YES.

 

I was born the way I am and pretty much everyone I know IRL says so also. The only thing that actually shows up is society pressures all of us to fit in so many have had to hide it or can only admit who they are after a major struggle.

 

What I know is that we're now under attack from gays. You may dislike a person for being short or ugly or whatever and no one questions you. If you dislike gay lifestyle you're hounded as homophobic. I mean wtf! Homosexuality is supposed to be anomalous human activity. It seems they want to make it mainstream. I only support freedom to live your life as you deem fit, but not to take over the narrative in society

 

That's not what I said. It was society and government that wanted to promote efficient reproduction in the past. Nature had nothing to do with it.

 

I know hundreds of LGBT individuals, not ONE wants to "take over", we just want to be treated as equal human beings with the same rights as anyone else. This seems to inflame hatred in an unbelievable manner. Just the same as me being a feminist and wanting to be treated fully human.

 

This.

I know I was born gay. The same way I know I was born with brown eyes (and a rather large nose).

Does that mean I want to rule the world?

Nope. I'm too busy trying to live my own life - I have no need/desire to tell other people how to live...

QP

 

Well actually, if you have brown eyes now unlikely you were born with brown eyes and the nose is a result of the dominating replecating gene from statistically one of your grandparents i.e was determined well before you were even concieved.

In other words, neither characteristic you were born with

 

you means the nose & eye are a product of conditioning? no, genetics did it and you are BORN with that

 

I've always rejected the idea people are born gay. You aren't born with a certain attraction, it takes time to learn and understand what you are attracted to or why certain things attract you. I don't believe this has been coded before birth. If it has... what a boring life we are all living.

 

Ellis' book on homosexuality was published in 1965. He later changed his position. And he died seven years ago. One case is hardly a sound basis for generalization. The answer is, nobody knows for sure. But there's a lot of evidence suggesting biological influences--either genetic or hormonal in embryo. This doesn't mean that babies or young kids have same sex attraction, but it does mean that as sexual attraction develops, it's more likely to be gay. But environmental conditions, including parenting, probably play a part too. And orientation is one thing, expression another.

 

Sometimes. But not always. It seems some people aren't sure of their own sexuality. Not just young people, but adults as well. Some know right away, but for others it takes lots of soul searching.



I'm gonna get thumbed down for saying this, because it's politically incorrect and you can't say nothing without offending anybody these days. My theory is that homosexuality is somewhat of a disorder, a naturally occurring disorder. Kind of like attention deficit, dyslexia, color blindness, bipolar, etc. Does it make homosexuality treatable? No, they've tried that. Pray the gay away doesn't work. It proves that homosexuality is not a choice. If it were a choice, there'd certainly be a lot less gayness in the world seeing how most societies around the world have vilified homosexuality as taboo for centuries. Furthermore, homosexuality has been witnessed in other mammals outside of homosapien. Which further proves that it is naturally occurring.

 

Except that the psychiatric association long ago determined that it was not a disorder.

Try again, but do not allow your veiled bigotry to rule your brain next time.

 

False. Those who attempt to change their sexuality by trying to learn how to be attracted to the gender to which they have no sexual attraction never actually reach a genuine attraction. They lie to themselves, for the sake of silly beliefs or wanting to appeal to a loved one, but eventually the unhealthy suppression of their true attractions are their downfalls.

The one is born gay is more a saying than an actual truth. Of course, infants are not going to have any sexual feelings one way or the other. Even children who understand that mother/father relationships are the norm will attempt to form the same relationships with their peers, but in the long run the awakening of one's preference does not make an appearance until puberty.

After all, growing up, I knew that boys were supposed to be with girls. When I reached puberty, however, I was not sexually attracted to girls. There was nothing about them that even remotely attracted me sexually. Rather, I was sexually attracted to other guys.

Heterosexuals go through the same sexual awakening at puberty, whether they are consciously aware of it or not. When the hormones in their bodies begin to awaken sexual feelings in them, they will usually be attracted to the gender to whom they are most sexually aware of. Unless one is bisexual, but that is a different matter and does nothing to dismiss the truth of sexual preference.

 

Uhm, he simply shared his theory. What do you mean 'except that...' - does his theory has to include a determination you find absolute And bigotry? Can't people genuinly think it is a disorder? Does he automatically hate gays because he has a theory that says it might be a naturally occuring disorder (I for one am not sure of that at all, seems you are?)

 

A theory with no basis in reality.

And what is wrong with stating my own theory in relation to his bigotry?

 

I think you simply dislike the word disorder in this regard (which is understandable).

 

Yes, first people are born gay and then society reinforces and "punishes" it (jealousy?) Until people are secretly thankful to G-d that they are. I'm old enough to be "ok" and beat down enough to see that there really is no such thing as "the blessing of normal straightness" by comparison. Tough to some maybe but true.
I was cracking up! "Heteroflexible" - I'ma be teasing the young guys with that one 'till these buds crystal over! I can-not-wait to pretend I heard it at the college and want to know what it is and "if all you guys are...?" Ahahahaha! The term "metrosexual" already nearly pukes people here!