Do you think Obama will be re-elected in 2012?

Discussion in 'Political Polls' started by Cold Brains, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Hey Obama, LEGALIZE IT ... or just "leave it up to the States" (as right-wingers put) ... either way it's going to be legal somewhere in the U.S. !

    Fuck Prohibition!
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    So, if you people don't think Obama will be re-elected, WHO in the world is going to be? WHO do the Republicans actually have that will do anything worth two shits? I can tell you - no one. Obama will be re-elected because the Republicans ran the country in the ground for eight years and they have NO ONE worth two shits. The DNC will re-nominate Obama and he will win again.

    Write it down.
     
  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    The Republicans actually have many people that are potential candidates for 2012 that are popular and much more appealing to the middle ground than Sarah Palin.
     
  4. lode

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    Two years till election day... it's really hard to tell. If the election were held today, I'd probably say no.

    I'll vote for 'em though.
     
  5. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes.

    I think he will be re-elected. I also believe he should be.
     
  6. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    And I believe God exists, I found it in the dictionary. So much for believing anything.
    Will Obama be re-elected in 2012? It's possible.
    Should Obama be re-elected in 2012? That's another question entirely, and begs an explanation.
     
  7. deleted

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    Do bears shit in the woods??


    but what if they're at the zoo... :leaving:
     
  8. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Whom?
     
  9. larryelkhart

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    If the people are willing to continue giving up their freedoms and become slaves. they will re-elect him. If however sanity has returned to the electorate he will be kicked out of office before then. If you want to be a slave vote for Obama. If you want to be free vote for someone else. I imagine the under 30 crowd will vote for slavery.
     
  10. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    So, what freedoms are we giving up again?

    Also, the higher educated swing for Obama. It'd not that universities are a liberal indoctrination grounf, it's that education tends to swing liberal.
     
  11. aidanspops85

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    Are you serious with post man? Lets get into a few lies your buddy Barack Hussein Obama has told this nation so far:

    ObamaCare Press Conference Lie 7/22/9 Obama repeated his pledge that his health care plan “won’t add to the deficit. And I mean it!” Later he even added his plan is “designed to lower it!” - So what of the Congressional Budget Office’s conclusion that the House bill does add to the deficit? Democrats and the Obama administration argue that the $245 billion included for doctors — the approximate 10-year cost of adjusting Medicare reimbursement rates so physicians don’t face big annual pay cuts — does not have to be counted in the overall cost of the health care bill. Their only-in-Washington reasoning is that they already decided to exempt it from congressional “pay-as-you-go” rules that require new programs to be paid for. In other words, it doesn’t have to be paid for because they decided it doesn’t have to be paid for“!!!!!

    ObamaCare Press Conference Lie 7/22/9 Obama says his plan “lowers healthcare expenses.” The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says that’s not true. How long until he starts firing the CBO guys just like the inspectors generals he has canned?

    ObamaCare Press Conference Lie 7/22/9 Obama has the audacity to claim that he’ll pay for 2/3rds of his $1.5-Trillion healthcare plan by realizing “savings” from the fact the government will run healthcare!!! Has the government ever saved us a dime running anything?! What makes him think he can do so now? $600 hammer anyone?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0&feature=player_embedded#!

    Get real man... I could go on and on and on with this
     
  12. aidanspops85

    aidanspops85 Member

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    Possible Republican Presidential Candidate for 2012 #2 - Mitt Romney: He entered office with a 3 Billion dollar deficit, but through spending cuts and removal of corporate tax loopholes had a $700 million surplus and was able to cut taxes.

    Possible Republican Presidential Candidate for 2012 #3 - Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is a prime example of what the GOP should stand for. He stood up against racism and anti-Semitism. He opposes gun control laws and believes in the right to carry a concealed weapon.

    Possible Republican Presidential Candidate for 2012 #3- Ron Paul: I rise to introduce the Private Option Health Care Act. This bill places individuals back in control of health care by replacing the recently passed tax-spend-and-regulate health care law with reforms designed to restore a free market health care system. Specifically, the bill:

    A. Provides all Americans with a tax credit for 100% of health care expenses. The tax credit is fully refundable against both income and payroll taxes;
    B. Allows individuals to roll over unused amounts in cafeteria plans and Flexible Savings Accounts (FSA);
    C. Provides a tax credit for premiums for high-deductible insurance policies connected with a Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and allows seniors to use funds in HSAs to pay for medigap policies;
    D. Repeals the 7.5% threshold for the deduction of medical expenses, thus making all medical expenses tax deductible.

    Thats just a few
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Actually the CBO estimated the plan as was would also save almost $1 trillion over 10 years after implementation.

    And the government isn't running health care, regroup and try again because that attempt was pitiful.

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    Romney is the only person you listed with any actual chance of winning the nomination/election. Huckabee will near certainly never win the nomination or election as being far too conservative for most of the US while Paul is too extreme. You're a bit out of touch with pragmatism.
     
  14. aidanspops85

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    After 9/11 there was an economic boom... jobs were being created nationwide due to: Between 2001 and 2003, the Bush administration instituted a federal tax cut for all taxpayers. Among other changes, the lowest income tax rate was lowered from 15% to 10%, the 27% rate went to 25%, the 30% rate went to 28%, the 35% rate went to 33%, and the top marginal tax rate went from 39.6% to 35%.[3] In addition, the child tax credit went from $500 to $1000, and the "marriage penalty" was reduced. Since the cuts were implemented as part of the annual congressional budget resolution, which protected the bill from filibusters, numerous amendments, and more than 20 hours of debate, it had to include a sunset clause. Unless congress passes legislation making the tax cuts permanent, they will expire in 2011.

    So when you were seeing less and less being taken out of your checks during those years you can thank the evil George W Bush for that. Hell, people are lucky to have a paycheck now days. God help us all
     
  15. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    You apparently missed out on that part of the decade with the fact the recovery after the post 2000 recession was constantly called the jobless recovery.
     
  16. Individual

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    Is it not obvious? The primary freedom government takes away is the freedom of individual choice. Of course you may buy into "the ends justify the means" but not all do in every facet of life.

    Of course education tends to swing liberal when that is what is being taught. And I find "higher educated" not to be an indication of one's intelligence, but instead an indicator of how deeply indoctrinated a person might be.
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    The ends does justify the means, like speed limits impair your freedom to do 130mph on the highway but in the end probably save a lot of lives considering not everyone wants to go that fast on freeways.

    Or that could just be a cop out, i.e. "I don't trust the educated", which is exactly what for example, the tea party feeds on.
     
  18. Individual

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    Do they really? The worlds population is growing disproportionately large, we could simply eliminate what we consider to be an excessive number of the population and resolve that problem quite easily. Would the ends justify the means? Democracy is a means by which such could be legally accomplished.

    Not a cop out, but get the facts. Just because someone you respect tells you something doesn't mean they are correct. There's often at least two sides to everything, and even when there are many it doesn't mean that any one of them is fully correct.
     
  19. aidanspops85

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    at least there was a recovery... where as now there is no recovery in sight, with unemployment at an all time high... and with unemployment being extended to 99 weeks who the hell would want to get off their ass to find work instead of sitting around doing nothing and get paid... please tell me what your buddy BARCK HUSSEIN OBAMA is doing at this moment to fix the crisis our country is in... dont get me wrong when the things i say may sound a little right wingish, because in my opinion it is not about right or left, we need someone in office who is not there to give government more power than they already throw around, we need someone who is nuetral with just a little common sense, and grant it george w bush might not have been the brightest tool in the shed, mr. hussein obama has not done anything close to what this country needs to get back on the right track.
     
  20. ChronicTom

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    George Bush fucked you all, Obama hasn't yet fixed all of his fuck ups, so its all his fault?

    Grow the fuck up.
     

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