Do you think God wants less for his children than you for yours?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Do you think God wants less for his children than you for yours?

    Most Christians think that God created man to be subservient to him. We are to love honor and most of all obey and serve his wants and needs forever as his heavenly children. In other words, God is always at the top and man is always below.

    As above so below. At end times, God’s law is to prevail on earth.

    As a son, I strained to do as well and even better than my father. It happened naturally and thus I think most people do the same.

    As a parent myself, I want my children to do as well as I have and then bust any record of mine and do better. That to me would be the ideal. That eventually places my children above me, --- where they belong. This is natural and desirable yet God would have the reverse with his children.

    Are you ready to follow your God and have your children subservient to you forever?
    Do you think that to be the natural order of things?

    I would not force my children beneath me and reject a God who would have me beneath him forever.

    I remember what Jesus asked in the bible. Have ye forgotten that ye are Gods?

    My answer is no. What is yours?

    Regards
    DL
     
  2. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    I don't have any children so I can't say what I want them to do.
     
  3. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Are you serious?

    What do you think your parents want for you?

    Regards
    DL
     
  4. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    I know what my parents wanted for me. They wanted me not to be pushed into things I don't want, it's why they never baptized us even tho they both were so we could make our own choices later. They wanted us to survive life and if possible be as comfortable or better then they are, and no I never had to lean on them for anything, they taught us we'll how to make our own way in life.
    They also wanted us to be a giver and not a taker unless we earned it. When we were kids we were first taught to share, enjoy each other's company, help another out and most of all be fair to each other and other people. We were taught to respect and be respected and most of all stand on our own for what we wanted.
    I am glad they thought me good values and that's why my sense of religion is to be a good person over all but not to be a follower who gets cornered into giving in the wrong places or working to corner others into beliefs. I'd feed a man on the street before I would dump any cash into a church. Sometimes I am too generous, but I have never given to the point I become hungry or bills are not paid. My mom is the same way but she is careful what organizations or who she gives to as well. My mom wanted and still wants us to be Happy and have loads of reasons to smile. She like me does not enjoy downer people or pushy ones. I have watched her wash away those types in her life and I learned from that.
    So whether this be about Christians or any other religion even one like yours, people need to teach their children to stand alone where needed and be strong. Teach them to give and take help where needed but to be a good person to others and be enjoyed by others. Teaching them right has little to do with any religion if you take the time and you are a do righter yourself. Religion is just a place to send them and let someone else and someone else's words do the work. Kinda like sitting them in front of a tv as a baby sitter.
    Ya, I am serious,,,
     
  5. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Thanks for this.

    Would you say that you want that for your children and is that freedom of thinking and action not better than that of a God who demands you think his way and always be subservient to him?

    Regards
    DL
     
  6. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    You're thinking from an egoistic perspective, which is erroneous.

    At the head of a woman is her husband. At the head of a man is Christ. At the head of Christ is the Most High. 1 Corinthians 11:3

    As for my children, I do wish for them to be obedient to my guidance. When I give them instruction, direction or guidance they should listen to me. Of course, we serve Understanding - which is the God level itself - and so we do not simply boss our kids around or command them like soldiers. They are expected to know and understand the reasons why one would want to do something, a certain way, or not do something at all. This is for their highest good and greatest values. And, for safety .. so our souls and spirits are not at risk. It's a super dangerous world.

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  7. GreatestIam

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    Another Christian man who refuses to give women and gays justice through equality. I guess you did n9ot know that the U. N. would cancel your membership if your government was as backwards and immorally thinking as you do.

    I see you talk of obedience from your children that you will try to enforce forever just as your genocidal son murdering God wants to do.

    Keep your kid always beneath you. You must have enjoyed always kowtowing to your parents and being less than they.

    As to a dangerous world, I see things a bit more positively. To me, it is already amazing and is evolving perfection.

    Do you happen to recall that the writers of Shangri-La always had their perfect worlds failing due to boredom.

    The small amount of intentional evil we suffer is almost nothing.

    Not to be a been counter but sure, there are millions who starve and die but as a percentage of the population, it is small. Unfortunate but small that is.

    We can and should try to do better but we are doing fantastically right now.

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    Regards
    DL
     
  8. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    hahah, you talking to me? I'm a woman, not a man. You just bait and then go nuts. Well I hope you enjoyed the song anyway. lmao
     
  9. GreatestIam

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    Then I hope you cleared what you wrote with your man.

    A woman who lets her man be her head only has one use where I come from.

    Regards
    DL
     
  10. Moonglow181

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    OP, no...i would never want anyone subserviant to me or dominant, either...If I had had children, I would have guided them gently to be who that are and not what I wanted tthem to be.I only become dominant ...like with my animals, when I am looking at safety issues and keeping them safe.....that is it.:)
     
  11. GreatestIam

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    Seems you morals are better than God's. He is all about dominance and having us on our faces instead of our feet.

    Strange that humans know that the strong serve the weakest of us while in God's world, the weak must serve the strong.

    God is really self-engrossed it seems.

    Regards
    DL
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Frankly no. We are as god created us. In this world we live for and with each other and in the kingdom of heaven we are co-creator with god
    As one unsure of his inheritance you strained and you strain still. It is not necessary to be greater than the father. It is enough to be like him.
    As a parent myself I am not a scorekeeper.
    Your idol.
    My children are before me, not above me.
    God is not mocked.
     
  13. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Then you don't know God, DL.

    God responds to very specific things, like fear. Have you ever seen the look on a child's face, at a mall or something, and they think they've lost their parent? Know how CRUSHING that is, to see a child in fear?

    Now, imagine a grown man having the same sort of fear. Or a grown woman.

    There's more. It isn't only fear that God responds to. But if you weren't stuck in ego-mind, you'd know more about it.

    Remember this one? We've all heard it many times. Matthew 18:2-4

    So can YOU answer the question of what that passage means? Can anybody?

    I listened to a sermon today and I realized, there's just constant regurgitating of information and NO understanding (which is evident by what is NOT being said).

    I sometimes wonder if people ever "get to the place where you can stand and stand there". It means, when you understand something that understanding becomes your foundation.

    I honestly think you don't know or understand God but I do think you want to.
     
  14. GreatestIam

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    Dope

    Thanks for the semantics and if you do not keep track of what your child accomplishes, you are not much of a parent.

    Regards
    DL
     
  15. GreatestIam

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    Your male head would not approve of you talking to a man in such a way.

    This place is like a church. You know your theology tells you to shut up and listen to what the men say.

    Do so woman and take your place.

    Regards
    DL
     
  16. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    You spent NO time considering what I put forth for you. I posted at 8:30 and you replied 3 minutes later.

    You aren't serious. You aren't here for genuine, quality discussions and conversations.

    Do yourself a favor: don't get yourself banned again.

    Bait and troll and rumble all you want. But don't cross the line again with anyone, like you did with Sallysmart. You deserved that consequence, DL.

    Pause .. before you decide to slam back at me on your keyboard. I'm trying to be of assistance here, for you. A reminder. A good one.
     
  17. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I am attentive to their lives. You measuring everything as virtuous or not leaves you with no essential virtue, just a lot of hot air.
     
  18. GreatestIam

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    Gina

    A free man and free thinker has nothing to learn from a willing slave who is willing to be subjugated by a man thanks to a religion.

    You are a disgrace to the human race. Clear?

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. GreatestIam

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    Semantic B.S.
    Your same old same old.

    Regards
    DL
     
  20. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Semantics is the study of meaning. Yours is a study in projection. Exactly same old same old.
     

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