Do you still smoke?

Not for about 27 years. I've thought about it.

 

wtf .. a lot of you are the same age as me

what happened!! You into Geritol shooters now or what

 

:smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:


Mescalito bro', you're killin' me.



ZW eace:

 

It certainly helps the whole Thanksgiving tradition doesn't it
In NYC there used to be 2 or 3 FM & independent radio stations that played "Alice- at 12 noon every Thanksgiving.
I dont know if they still do- -but I certainly still do :cheers2:

just a 1/2 mile from the RR track,
JJack
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law-breaker

 

I no longer smoke. I'm a recovering addict and alcoholic with nearly 23 years clean and sober. I only occasionally miss it, but not enough to risk returning to the hell I lived when I was an active user.

 

I've known a number of alcoholics who got off booze by smoking weed

 

Addiction is addiction. If you truly have this disease then it has to be all or none.

 

Making bad decisions over and over and over--- doesn't qualify as a disease

It's a mental dis-order not a disease and a self inflicted one.

Diseases have cures... not meetings

Quit lumping weed into your list.. that's bullshit

 

A friend of Mr.Bill,s Huh, -- I'M certainly no 12 stepper, but at 58 I know plenty of older folks that have given up the old ways when their lives became unmanageable . Addiction is most definitely a disease.

This debate has gone on forever and I guess it always will- * no harm no foul *

Respect to others and their beliefs ,
JJack
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The New England Journal of Medicine >

Drug addiction shares many features with other chronic illnesses, including a tendency to run in families (heritability), an onset and course that is influenced by environmental conditions and behavior, and the ability to respond to appropriate treatment, which may include long-term lifestyle modification.

I would guess weed VERY RARELY falls into this category

 

It's a disease according to the AMA.

 

Right on!

 

i've known a couple people seemed addicted to weed.i don't know if they're bodies were but their minds were maybe.like an oz a day.me i like to smoke every day when i have it.but i'm o.k. during dry times and it gives me better lift off after not smoking it for awhile.i guess we've all been there.the thing about me is man after i smoke a doob.i smoke cigs like a fiend where usually i go without tobacco.so i can see where smoking it can maybe make you do things you usually don't do much or things you'd rather avoid.

 

that would be the same AMA that's handing out over 100 million prescriptions of white collar marijuana a year.. this is the reason MJ is still illegal it's going to cut into the pharma and doc's racket

Drug Brand Class 2007 Prescriptions (in millions)
Sertraline Zoloft SSRI 29.652
Escitalopram Lexapro SSRI 27.023
Fluoxetine Prozac SSRI 22.266
Bupropion Wellbutrin, Budeprion, Zyban NDRI 20.184
Paroxetine Paxil SSRI 18.141
Venlafaxine Effexor SNRI 17.200
Citalopram Celexa SSRI 16.246
Trazodone Desyrel 15.473
Amitriptyline Elavil TCA 13.462
Duloxetine Cymbalta SNRI 12.551


Don't get me wrong.. if there is the need to call it a disease to make it work that's okay... some people need to say Jesus healed them .. what's the difference .. long as it keeps you off the juice.

Just don't lump weed in that group.. because it doesn't share the same attributes as booze and hard drugs

 

Ahh, but it does.

 

Only to those who take the other drugs too far.

 

i don't see where it falls into the same category as other drugs except by the legal definition so olhippie could you explain this?

 

As I have been led to understand, all mood altering, mind altering drugs (pot included) affect the same part of the brain. The physical effects may feel different, but it is still the same area of the brain affected.

 

yeah, but there is not the addictive behavior associated with the other drug, including alcohol which is the most abused drug on this planet.Not too many pothead beat the shit out of their spouses and kids or go around trying to pick a fight.

The progressiveness isn't there like it is with the other. In other words, someone who starts smoking say in the 1980's , a couple of joints a week ..is not smoking a pound a week today. We as the other stuff, the intake keeps increasing.

Don't get me wrong, if AA works for you that's great. I assume you must be in AA because you refer to alcoholism as a disease. Certainly I had some friends who are pushing daisy's because they wouldn't stop drinking. I never got into the hair of the dog myself, maybe that was my saving grace, having come from a long line of juicers. Nothing like losing a parent to affirm that it's not a good thing.

Now you can say I'm into denial or whatever. But I'm into facts and pot should not be in the category that program people want to place it in for their own agenda.

 

Also.. I want to add.. it's true there are use/abuse issues. You can't just sit around and get baked all day long. But I have found that many people end up drinking on top of it. Nothing will fuck up your judgment more than alcohol.. it makes you do dumb shit. Or the other way around they are drinking then they smoke same difference.

If someone does get baked all day long then they need to take a serious look at themselves. I'm not being a square, just realistic.