do you put any RC on par with LSD?

I haven't done much for "RC"s, knowingly anyways. But I resent the label, and grouping of everything that's not scheduled into this class.

We're talking about psychedelic drugs, many of which deserve research, but just that term sort of makes me feel dirty...... In a "take your MDPV somewhere else" sort of way. I have had worthwhile experiences on everything from blotter alleged to contain LSD, to LSA, to black market pills of various types. Different, but all worthwhile.

I think I like DOB, myself..... I would choose a dose of DOx over LSD, partly because I would feel more qualified to determine if it was the real stuff, and partly because my one experience was so intense, while alleged LSD varies so much, which can make the desired dose quite elusive.

 

^^but "a dose" of DOB isn't a precise amount either.

what if you had a measure dose of DOB, or a measure and trustworthy dose of LSD?


i DO think 4acodmt compares to LSD. it is a serious chemical, probably not to be toyed with too much:devil:
it is a super clean, flowing trip, that leaves me feeling no comedown at all. the trip is just as worthwhile as LSD i think, but i still like L a bit better. lasts longer and is a bit more "connected" and in control.

 

This is true. But because of the interesting politics concerning the two, the DOx dose is more likely to be large. LSD is all over, but immensely hard to get close to in a pure form, is generally laid weak, further decays quickly, etc. DOx is less common (IME, not to some on here, clearly) but when one does come upon it, one is more likely to be fewer links from the end of the chain, and because it's generally seen as a substitute or oddity, it seems less likely that it will be pinched in the dosing process.

If I had a choice between pure and known, exact doses of 3mg DOB or 300mcg LSD, I have no idea which I would take.

It was a fascinating time, and easily still my most visual psychedelic. Emotional, but not in the way LSD is. Intense enough to be scary around sober people in public, but predictable about it, where on LSD bringing myself to just walk out the door can be a chore, my emotional state is so subject to change. They both magnify your mental situation, but DOB made me more stable despite a stronger experience.

 

i would put 25c-nbome up there with LSD, personally i found my trips with that stuff to be so profound & life changing, It has that similar magic i feel with lsd that many other psychedelics ive tried lack.

 

^^^have you also tried 25i-nbome?

roorshack, do you suspect that you got DOB that was marketed as LSD? what makes you so sure of DOB?

 

This from one of the pioneers, with vast experience tripping and guiding: I think about the differences between 2C-E and LSD. As great as the latter is, with its outstanding clarity and beauty, this somehow feels more kindly, more strongly centering, more fruitful. Who knows whether this is a genuine difference in substances, or a reflection of the work that has been done, or some other factor? What I can say is that it is an amazing working material, with a very great deal getting accomplished. Myron Stolaroff in Thanatos to Eros. http://www.maps.org/t2e/index.html

And to the person who posted this link originally: Thank you!

 

the closest RC i've came across that was almost like LSD would be 25i-nbome, 25c-nbome lacked the mind fuck i normally get from Lucy. its one of the only phenethylamine that I've actually enjoyed.

 

no way, good clean acid's the best.

 

have you tried others, like 2c-e, -b, or -i?

 

25c sounds more visual then d or I but may have to take slightly more. Sounds like c and I are both equally liked but I'd like to hear more from ppl who have tried the both as well. Im done looking into 25d

 

from the bit that i've read, 25c seems more visual than 25i, but 25i-nbome sounds like a deeper head trip and maybe "better" overall

 

i would say no, use,d to get good acid before that missle silo bust in 1999. they said they supp. most of the U.S.